2008 Scion xB

[LEXUS FAN!]

From Magazine X<p><A HREF="http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/2787/050829ea.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img368.imageshack.us/im...a.jpg</A><p>i wish there was a bigger picture...why are the pictures from that site always small

[galv]

somehow i see nissan in the nose.

[anonms]

Reminds me of the t2B concept.

[LEXUS FAN!]

<A HREF="http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/4246/xb1mq.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/4246/xb1mq.jpg</A><p>there's also the new bB concept<p><A HREF="http://thehollywoodextra.blogspot.com/2005/09/new-scion-xb.html#comments" TARGET="_blank">http://thehollywoodextra.blogs...ments</A>

[StevenZoz]

i read that the new toyota concept will be the new xB

[Rugbyplaya91]

guhh why is toyota ruining such a good thing, maybe only cuz it's a chop but the rear is not very appealing at all.

[StevenZoz]

<A HREF="http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/7006/xb18bx.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/7006/xb18bx.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/9946/xb21kh.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/9946/xb21kh.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/747/xb31xw.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/747/xb31xw.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/1966/xb49va.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/1966/xb49va.jpg</A><p>interior shots.

[Charger]

<A HREF="http://siteadmin.thecarconnection.com/images/gallery/tmb/10703_ETXFULPLOCXSF.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://siteadmin.thecarconnect...F.jpg</A><p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Scion's hot-selling xB is due to be redesigned soon, and the replacement vehicle is expected to be larger than the current model. This photo captures a prototype mule, obviously based on the current xB, but stretched, which seems to confirm that the new xB will be at least a few inches longer than today's car. -Antoine Guilbaud/Hidden Image<p> </TD></TR></TABLE><br>source: TCC

[against the wall]

that mule is like a cross between the nissan cube and the lr3.

[scorpio14]

SO is this goin to be like the Japanese bB or more like that concept they had at a US. Motor Show the t2b???

[nismo]

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>scorpio14</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">SO is this goin to be like the Japanese bB or more like that concept they had at a US. Motor Show the t2b???</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Most likely more like the US t2b concept. They wouldn't need to be doing serious testing like that if it were just to be a rebadge of the new Toyota bB. <p>I for one, am happy about that... the t2b was nice. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

[RetroJapan]

I'm 99.9% sure that the Japanese bB will stay in Japan... There was an article somewhere that mentioned that the next xB would be a US only model...<p>Hopefully it'll look similar to the t2b, since it was a really nice concept...

[Santeno]

Really? I remember reading the exact opposite, That the two cars will remain the same? How long ago was the bB replaced in Japan (or did it only get an refresh)?

[RetroJapan]

<A HREF="http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=108243" TARGET="_blank">http://www.edmunds.com/insidel...08243</A><p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Before the end of this year (2005), Toyota will launch a new bB in Japan but that's a purely domestic 1.5-liter model. </TD></TR></TABLE>

[Santeno]

so it is supposed to look closer to this:<p><IMG SRC="http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com/media/il/news/2005/1129/t2B.concept.vehicle.500.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>than this:<p><A HREF="http://toyota.jp/bb/exterior/bodycolor/index.html" TARGET="_blank">http://toyota.jp/bb/exterior/bodycolor/index.html</A><p>You've got to admit that even if they are different cars this time around, the visual similarities seem to be there.

[Porschefan]

Why are they making it bigger? The beauty in the xB is it's small on the outside, big on the inside. This defeats the purpose of what's supposed to be a city car. Kinda like the RAV4: the perfect little kick-around truck turned into HIGHLANDER COMPETITOR WITH 3RD ROW SEATS! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/all_coholic.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/cool.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bonk.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/crying.gif" BORDER="0">

[nismo]

I know what you mean. It will probably be slightly longer but lower than before.<p>If you've seen the RAV-4 in person its not big at all same size as CRV and Escape now and its smaller than Highlander, the old RAV-4 was just THAT small in comparison.

[scorpio14]

I hope it looks like the t2b concept... i liked that... also they should keep it with similar dimensions to the concept but just add 2 more doors to the side (might require more length though)

[carluver]

Since they showed the Diahatsu version of the bB in Geneva, I think they will show the Scion version at the New York Auto Show (one year after the t2B).

[Porschefan]

I think that Toyota should make it look like the t2B concept, but with four doors, the rears being suicides. That would be neat.

[scionlife]

The next generation Scion xB will be shown to the public late 2007, or possibly early 2008. Yesterday a ScionLife member in southern Los Angeles spotted a modified Scion xB mule driving on the freeway. It definitely has a longer wheelbase and much larger wheel wells, as well as longer rear doors.<p><A HREF="http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=123403" TARGET="_blank">http://www.scionlife.com/forum...23403</A><p><A HREF="http://www.scionlife.com/misc/xb2008_1.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.scionlife.com/misc/xb2008_1.jpg</A><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by knicks125 at 5:42 PM 6/6/2006</i>

[Excellerator]

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>scionlife</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><A HREF="http://www.scionlife.com/misc/xb2008_1.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.scionlife.com/misc/xb2008_1.jpg</A></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Let's put it this way. I love the current xB. I've had the chance to sit in one and I really enjoy the seating position, the interior materials etc. They look awesome in its current length.<p>This, though... I want to run and hide. Sure it's just a prototype, but, with it extended like that, it looks just plain wrong on so many levels.<br>

[against the wall]

which is why its probably just a mule. toyota is smarter than making a extended wheelbase and calling it the new xb. <br>theres already a thread on this too.

[Santeno]

Toyota has already launched the Next Generation bB in Japan:<p><A HREF="http://www.carspyshots.net/zerothread?id=18028" TARGET="_blank">http://www.carspyshots.net/zerothread?id=18028</A><p>We've heard rumors that the xB won't be a rebadge bB any more. But I think it's pretty safe to assume that it wont diverge too much from the bB's design.

[SHEPO]

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Santeno</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Toyota has already launched the Next Generation bB in Japan:<p><A HREF="http://www.carspyshots.net/zerothread?id=18028" TARGET="_blank">http://www.carspyshots.net/zerothread?id=18028</A><p>We've heard rumors that the xB won't be a rebadge bB any more. But I think it's pretty safe to assume that it wont diverge too much from the bB's design.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yeah; although it will retain its "box-on-wheels" styling, Toyota set out to style the next-gen xB specifically for the American market.

[Excellerator]

Edit: Nevermind. I thought my post was deleted but I guess it's now on the second page. Sorry.

[knihc2008]

I thought Scions were to have much shorter lifespans than that?

[scionlife]

Yeah, that is the plan. The xA and xB will be four years, the tC is supposed to be three years. Since most Toyota cars are five years, it is definitely shorter.

[Nurburgring]

<IMG SRC="http://www.mag-x.com/blog/img/02.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><A HREF="http://www.mag-x.com/blog/img/02.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.mag-x.com/blog/img/02.jpg</A><p>Small, but first image of the American variant of the Toyota bB. It clearly shows the Scion t2b concept front.

[mzoltarp]

Looks like it's grown a lot too.

[the1]

Another small box on wheels, but it seems to be cute.

[caarmike]

Hmm, maybe not as boxy anymore. Check that windshield slope. This is due in early '07 from what I hear, along with a new xA

[nismo]

I'm hearing they may change the name. The replacement for the xA is supposedly xD...<p>We'll have to wait and see. A new model or both will debut in December at some special event. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0">

[Excellerator]

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>nismo</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm hearing they may change the name. The replacement for the xA is supposedly xD...</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Then would the new xB be rumored to be called the xE?<p>

[Nurburgring]

They should keep the xB name. It represents the car. <B>xB</B>oxy

[Porschefan]

I think it should be called x2B, the 2 signifying the 2nd generation of the car, and tying it into the t2B concept car that I loved so very much. If this looks anything like the concept, this <i>will</i> be my first car. In theory, this thing should be a bit more efficient than the current box, with what appears to be a more rounded-off body, better for aerodynamics, plus w/e engine updates they decide to do.

[Nurburgring]

The only thing I didnt like about the xB was the frickin huge bumper. I only saw it twice. Once when I went to NY and Cali and also I saw one being sold for $26000CDN here in Toronto. That's roughly $21000USD.

[nismo]

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Excellerator</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Then would the new xB be rumored to be called the xE?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I'm not sure. I actually think it should be t2A (2nd gen xA) and t2B (2nd gen xB). With "t" standing for Toyota. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/embeer.gif" BORDER="0">

[Porschefan]

Haha, good point. After all, tC <i>does</I> stand for Toyota Celica...

[against the wall]

hah t2b could also stand for toyotas 2nd box.

[StevenZoz]

<A HREF="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3545/557/1600/greatwall_xB_front.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://photos1.blogger.com/blo...t.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3545/557/1600/greatwall_xB_side.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://photos1.blogger.com/blo...e.jpg</A>

[sashok]

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>StevenZoz</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><A HREF="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3545/557/1600/greatwall_xB_front.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://photos1.blogger.com/blo...t.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3545/557/1600/greatwall_xB_side.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://photos1.blogger.com/blo...e.jpg</A></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Why do these blogger links never work for me even after pressing refresh? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/angry.gif" BORDER="0">

[against the wall]

its nothing special. just the great wall xb that they plan to sell as their own. another blatant chinese copy.

[Porschefan]

I love the 5 different shades of hurl green on that thing. Reminds me of one of those Puzz-3D things...

[StevenZoz]

<A HREF="http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/3545/557/1600/654395/scion.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://photos1.blogger.com/x/b...n.jpg</A>

[SOLAR]

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>sashok</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Why do these blogger links never work for me even after pressing refresh? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/angry.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Dude, just COPY the link posted..and PASTE it in the address bar.

[Nuvolari]

<IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>Even this doesn't work for me<br>

[knicks125]

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Porschefan</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Haha, good point. After all, tC <i>does</I> stand for Toyota Celica...</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Close but tC actually stands for touring coupe, IIRC. The Toyota Celica successor reference is only due to the tC taking the void left by the Celica in 05.

[Porschefan]

Yeah, I gotcha. I know what <i>Toyota</i> thinks it stands for, but I'm keeping my nickname for it, lol. <p>Random: does anyone have any idea if this generation xB (or whatever they call it) will be available with a sunroof? or why it wasnt offered this time-'round?

[anonms]

The current xB doesn't have a sunroof because of cost.<p>The next generation of Scions may have a sunroof, or it may not. But I wouldn't really count on it.

[scionlife]

The xA and xB clones that you see as Great Wall Motors vehicles are actually Toyota-built and powered. GWM offers a truck and SUV that is obviously built on the Truck/4Runner platform. <p>This is most likely a ploy for Toyota to increase their 3.5% market share in China by disguising their vehicles as home-grown. Then, sometime in the future when the Chinese have accepted the vehicles, they will probably consolidate their platforms into one Toyota brand.<p>Here are links to the GWM copies that WILL work for everyone:<br>Scion xA Front: <A HREF="http://www.scionlife.com/misc/greatwall_xA_front.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.scionlife.com/misc/...t.jpg</A><br>Scion xA Rear: <A HREF="http://www.scionlife.com/misc/greatwall_xA_rear.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.scionlife.com/misc/...r.jpg</A><br>Scion xB Front: <A HREF="http://www.scionlife.com/misc/greatwall_xB_front.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.scionlife.com/misc/...t.jpg</A><br>Scion xB Rear: <A HREF="http://www.scionlife.com/misc/greatwall_xB_side.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.scionlife.com/misc/...e.jpg</A><p>

[the1]

I think GWM also builds a licensed clone of the old Isuzu Axiom.

[spwolf]

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>scionlife</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The xA and xB clones that you see as Great Wall Motors vehicles are actually Toyota-built and powered. GWM offers a truck and SUV that is obviously built on the Truck/4Runner platform. <p>This is most likely a ploy for Toyota to increase their 3.5% market share in China by disguising their vehicles as home-grown. Then, sometime in the future when the Chinese have accepted the vehicles, they will probably consolidate their platforms into one Toyota brand.<p>Here are links to the GWM copies that WILL work for everyone:<br>Scion xA Front: <A HREF="http://www.scionlife.com/misc/greatwall_xA_front.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.scionlife.com/misc/...t.jpg</A><br>Scion xA Rear: <A HREF="http://www.scionlife.com/misc/greatwall_xA_rear.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.scionlife.com/misc/...r.jpg</A><br>Scion xB Front: <A HREF="http://www.scionlife.com/misc/greatwall_xB_front.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.scionlife.com/misc/...t.jpg</A><br>Scion xB Rear: <A HREF="http://www.scionlife.com/misc/greatwall_xB_side.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.scionlife.com/misc/...e.jpg</A><p></TD></TR></TABLE><p>We never saw any official tie up between GW and Toyota, which makes this an rip-off.<p>As to the "ploy", it is way of doing business in China. You can not have your own company there, you have to have joint venture with Chinese companies, and Toyota is right now tied up with FAW in China.<p>As much as I know GW is small company with almost no brand name... officially using Toyota in their name would sell their cars.<p>As it looks right now, it is definetly stolen design, as many others in China.

[LEXUS FAN!]

new pic<br><A HREF="http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/3545/557/1600/732911/scion.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://photos1.blogger.com/x/b...n.jpg</A>

[Porschefan]

Hmm...blacked-out roof pillars make this look quite sporty. Lots of t2B in the front = good thing.

[MtViewGuy188]

It appears the new xB is probably based off the Toyota Corolla <i>Fielder</i> wagon sold in Japan, but can accommodate the 2.4-liter 160 bhp engine used on the Scion tC coupe. I hope Toyota uses a new 5-speed automatic on the new xB, though.<p>We'll find out on December 15, 2006 when Scion is scheduled to do a special event in Miami, FL.

[LEXUS FAN!]

how do u know?...<br>so we'll see the new xB on Friday????????

[nismo]

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Porschefan</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hmm...blacked-out roof pillars make this look quite sporty. Lots of t2B in the front = good thing.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Ditto, I hope they make it as close to the t2b as possible. That was a very well done concept. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/embeer.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>We have 5 more days to wait but I was told the xA replacement was going to be shown, I didn't know the xB replacement was going to debut. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0">

[kid]

for the people who can't see the link...drag it and drop it in your address bar

[SHEPO]

Spy pics...draws a lot from the T2B concept:<p><A HREF="http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2008-scion-xb-spy-shots" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autoblog.com/photos...shots</A>/

[karo.ambrose]

I'm really excited about this. It looks very promising. Do I smell my first new car?

[krausescion]

This is my first post, but I have been browsing here for 3 years or so.<br> I didnt see it mentioned on here, but the new xB as well as the xD will be shown later this week @ the Chicago auto show.

[anonms]

Um. We all already knew it. There's info on that in the Auto Shows thread, and info in the rumors thread.

[jijboi25]

Here they are:<br> <A HREF="http://www.caranddriver.com/autoshows/12463/2008-pontiac-g8.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.caranddriver.com/au....html</A><br> <A HREF="http://www.caranddriver.com/autoshows/12464/2008-pontiac-g8.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.caranddriver.com/au....html</A> <p>Dunno if they're official so I didn't start a thread on them. Found on ScionLife.com

[anonms]

They should be real. They match up with the descriptions.<p>I must say, the xD is ugly as sin.<p>But I'm in love with the xB. But I'm not too fond of the 2.4L engine. I would've preferred the new ZR instead of the old AZ, but oh well.