wrx vs. si vs. gti [Archive]

olegk21

03-17-2006, 07:53 AM

I recently test drove the new gti and was simply amazed. Prior to driving it I considered the car to have an inferior engine and quality. Either they've changed a lot or I was completely wrong.Though i've never driven an si/rsx or the wrx, i have fiends that at one point had them, and had the opportunity to check them out and ride in them.This was the first time that I've driven a car and had nothing to complain about.-best gearbox ever (can't feel the gears at all) -smooth and powerful engine -handles like it's on rails -unbeatable interior and build quality -very ergonomic with more standard features than any car under 30k!!!I was wondering if I'm just blind to the other two main competitors or this car is that great.

Naga Royal Guard

03-17-2006, 07:56 AM

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by olegk21 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Though i've never driven an si/rsx or the wrx,</TD></TR></TABLE>

olegk21

03-17-2006, 08:11 AM

I rode in an rsx and a wrx. I drove a legacy (same engine and gearbox as wrx)I was wondering if anybody has driven the new wrx asn si.

Naga Royal Guard

03-17-2006, 08:12 AM

exactly my point

olegk21

03-17-2006, 08:14 AM

I'm making the argument for the gti, and am trying to see what people that have driven the other two have to say about them

Naga Royal Guard

03-17-2006, 08:22 AM

wouldnt it be best to test drive those too then?

olegk21

03-17-2006, 08:25 AM

Yes, when I'm ready to buy, I will definately drive the other two.

knicks125

03-17-2006, 12:02 PM

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by olegk21 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I recently test drove the new gti and was simply amazed. -best gearbox ever (can't feel the gears at all) -smooth and powerful engine -handles like it's on rails -unbeatable interior and build quality -very ergonomic with more standard features than any car under 30k!!!</TD></TR></TABLE>In all fairness, and I mean this in the nicest way, you can't make these claims (ex: best, unbeatable, more features) with only one car tested. Test the other two on your list and then provide a fair assessment and verdict <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

olegk21

03-17-2006, 02:19 PM

When I used those words I was talking about my experience. You're taking what I said out of context.I could say that the interior is the best since I have been in a wrx and an rsx. I haven't been inside the new civic si but I expect it to have similar build quality to its "cousin."

KebabGud

03-17-2006, 03:24 PM

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by olegk21 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">When I used those words I was talking about my experience. You're taking what I said out of context.I could say that the interior is the best since I have been in a wrx and an rsx. I haven't been inside the new civic si but I expect it to have similar build quality to its "cousin."</TD></TR></TABLE> dude .. i hope you know that theres like 5 years and a totaly diffrent design style that seperates the RSX and the new Civic...PS: drive som cars before becoming a fanboy

Superfresa

03-17-2006, 05:06 PM

Deja-moo! * *(The strange feeling that I've heard this Bull_ before...) Perhaps in the form of a poll... perhaps a few dozen times... hmmm...

olegk21

03-18-2006, 12:45 PM

fanboy?!?!?anyway the two are similar in terms of build quality and fit and finish. that is what i was trying to say and you can't argue with that

Santeno

03-19-2006, 01:21 PM

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by olegk21 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">-best gearbox ever (can't feel the gears at all).</TD></TR></TABLE> Cough-bs Cough. Take a test drive in a manual 3 series, or a miata, or a 3rd gen RX-7 and then we can talk about good manuals (and at least in the mazda's the reverse is in the correct side).<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by olegk21 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">-smooth and powerful engine -handles like it's on rails</TD></TR></TABLE> You could be describing any number of cars here.<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by olegk21 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">--unbeatable interior and build quality</TD></TR></TABLE> I'll give you the interior, but not the build quality. Modern VW's are nicely put together, but they still have a disturbingly high amount of quality problems.<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by olegk21 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">-very ergonomic with more standard features than any car under 30k!!!.</TD></TR></TABLE> On the Count of 3 every body sing... MOOOOOO CACA!!!<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by olegk21 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I was wondering if I'm just blind...</TD></TR></TABLE> at the very least you're in need of a stronger perscription.

olegk21

03-20-2006, 05:57 PM

let's see here...gearbox - it is the best in a production car ever, you can't argue with that, the dsg shifts in .45s no other car made for consumers can beat that As for..."You could be describing any numer of cars here."What was that supposed to mean? I was making a general remark complementing the car. As for..."On the Count of 3 every body sing... MOOOOOO CACA!!!"According to edmunds.com the lowest sticker price possible for a 3 series vehicle has an MSRP of $31,595. This includes $695 for destination. Either way over 30K. And you suggesting that I need stronger perception is like you telling Donald Trump how to manage finances. So far in this thread you haven't made a single true statement while trying to disprove my observations. My advice is learn something about making arguments before trying to disprove others. Maybe it's just that you can't recognize sarcasm. Modified by olegk21 at 9:05 PM 3/20/2006 
Modified by olegk21 at 9:06 PM 3/20/2006

Superfresa

03-20-2006, 06:12 PM

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by olegk21 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">let's see here...gearbox - it is the best in a production car ever, you can't argue with that, the dsg shifts in .45s no other car made for consumers can beat that As for..."You could be describing any numer of cars here."What was that supposed to mean? I was making a general remark complementing the car. As for..."On the Count of 3 every body sing... MOOOOOO CACA!!!"According to edmunds.com the lowest sticker price possible for a 3 series vehicle has an MSRP of $31,595. This includes $695 for destination. Either way over 30K. And you suggesting that I need stronger perception is like you telling Donald Trump how to manage finances. So far in this thread you haven't made a single true statement while trying to disprove my observations. My advice is learn something about making arguments before trying to disprove others.</TD></TR></TABLE> Hahhaha.... So you are as good with perceprion as Donald Trump is with finances? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/cwm13.gif" BORDER="0"> "perceive" this: You make a poll every two weeks that is about the same thing. You then proceed to make a thread about the same topic making some ignorant statements after you test drove ONE car and already state its better than another few you've never driven. You say its "Best", you say its smooth, you say it handles well, you say a lot of things, all so general that you could be talking about a Toyota Yaris or a Bentley Continental. Yet you dont understand that after talking so much close minded crap, someone disaproves what you say. So Santeno should learn something about making arguments before disaproving your BS? Thats like telling Donald Trump how to manage finances.... as said before:Deja-Moo The strange feeling that I've heard this BS before. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0"> Go test drive some cars and then come back and tell us specifics. Dont just test drive one and come and say a bucket full of rubbish in here.

olegk21

03-20-2006, 06:20 PM

What are you talking about?He tried to disprove my statement of the gearbox. The cars he listed don't have a better transmission. That's a load of crap. Same thing every week... nope. Yes I talk about similar cars but discuss different concepts. The poll was asking readers to talk about the other two to maker their claims.Either you don't understand facts or you can't read.

Comrade

03-20-2006, 06:23 PM

You lads are out of your mind. Why all this hostility? As far as I can tell he was just sharing his experince with a car and opened a discussion about how it compares to its rivals.

olegk21

03-20-2006, 06:25 PM

Exactly... Since I haven't driven the other two yet, I wanted opinions from people who have. That was the only point of this thread.

olegk21

03-20-2006, 07:31 PM

I dissagree, but then I don't want to continue this ridiculous bashing that Santeno started and SuperFresa continued.I said what was the purpose of this thread, but trying todisprove a fact with no actual data or information from a professional editor is completely rediculous and is never done by a "good reader" or journalist.

knicks125

03-20-2006, 08:27 PM

Though I don't agreee with you observations but they are your opinions so to each own. I would, however, like to find out how you came to the conclusion the GTI has more standard features than any car under $30K. That leaves a lot of room for discussions, wouldn't you think? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/embeer.gif" BORDER="0">

Superfresa

03-21-2006, 12:26 AM

Olegk21, see the problem is, you dont start threads asking genuinely what people think about a certain car or certain cars - what you do is make a thread stating a lot of things that are nowhere near true (or if they are, they aren't backed up whatsoever). And you acuse people who point out that your statements are not backed up and are bull's manure of bashing? And you disaprove of people who point out that you shouldn't be making wild claims of not being good readers and of not knowing how to make arguments? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthdown.gif" BORDER="0">

Santeno

03-21-2006, 10:32 AM

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by comRADe »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You lads are out of your mind. Why all this hostility? As far as I can tell he was just sharing his experince with a car and opened a discussion about how it compares to its rivals.</TD></TR></TABLE> Just run a search under this member and see how many polls on the same general topic and with the same overgeneralized superlative claims have been locked before and you'll see why all the hostility.Yet another thread locked.