Japanese Off-Road Champion?

[anonms]

Which do you perfer?<p><A HREF="http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/Comparos/articleId=115472" TARGET="_blank">Here;s what Edmunds has to say.</A><p>How about you?

[scorpio14]

The FJ Cruiser looks better....

[Reppu]

Can't be bothered

[KebabGud]

the Land crusier 100 /amazone ....<br>but its not on the list.. soo ill go to sleep now

[Superfresa]

Neither. Who wants a Japanese semi-offroader if you can have a British proper offroader?

[scorpio14]

I thought it was a choice between the two.<p>I definetly dont think its better then the LC100series

[Superfresa]

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>scorpio14</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I thought it was a choice between the two.<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Superfresa</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Neither.</TD></TR></TABLE><p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>scorpio14</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>I definetly dont think its better then the LC100series</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Dont think that what is better than the LC100?

[anonms]

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Superfresa</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Neither. Who wants a Japanese semi-offroader if you can have a British proper offroader?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>The only British thing I've ever had (and wanted to have) was Earl Grey tea. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0">

[scorpio14]

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Superfresa</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>Dont think that what is better than the LC100?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Both the FJ and the Xterra in turns of off-road ability.<p>Honestly im very confused now... got no idea whats goin on. I wasnt replying to your post before just to let ya know more to kebabGud's post which he brings the LC100series into the topic

[Superfresa]

Oh, just sounded like you were telling me to decide for one of the two so I thought I'd repeat the neither <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">

[NOM15]

I'll take a 2nd hand Toyota MegaCruiser thank you very much <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beerchug.gif" BORDER="0">

[DoMiNo]

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Reppu</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Can't be bothered</TD></TR></TABLE> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/werd.gif" BORDER="0">

[TitanSteel]

The FJ is better equipped to go offroad than the Xterra. But, overall, I like the Xterra more.

[anonms]

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>scorpio14</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Both the FJ and the Xterra in turns of off-road ability.<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>The FJ100 is kinda like a soft-roader at heart, it's just convieniently capable of off-roading.

[Superfresa]

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>anonms</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>The FJ100 is kinda like a soft-roader at heart, it's just convieniently capable of off-roading.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>LC100 is a proper 4X4... One of the most capable ones in the market. I dont know if you are mistaking it for another car... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0">

[anonms]

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Superfresa</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">LC100 is a proper 4X4... One of the most capable ones in the market. I dont know if you are mistaking it for another car... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>I'm not mistaking it for anything.<p>It's definitely one of the most capable, but whether or not one would want to take a $55k+ car off-road is the thing.

[Naga Royal Guard]

maybe not the plush US version, but there are cheaper stripped versions w/ steel wheels and vinyl interiors ( used by UN, etc )

[Superfresa]

That, and also, wether or not you would want to take your car offroad has nothing to do with wether or not the car is CAPABLE offroad.<p>I wouldn't take my New Ferrari at over 150km/h but that doesn't mean its not capable of doing so....

[anonms]

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Naga Royal Guard</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">maybe not the plush US version, but there are cheaper stripped versions w/ steel wheels and vinyl interiors ( used by UN, etc ) </TD></TR></TABLE><p>I think the UN uses FJ70s. *not sure*

[Naga Royal Guard]

its 100, you are talkin about the SWB version of it

[anonms]

Oo.... I'm kinda lost and confused now.

[Naga Royal Guard]

if spwolf was here he could clarify this better

[Superfresa]

Im lost too...<p>Naga, I think the 75 and 78 Land Cruisers are the original square boxy ones, whilst the LC100 is 5 door, IFS, coil sprung one and the real seller here. There's no SWB version of it - all there is is a mainstream version of it with leafs and part time 4X4 - a dishonourable downgrade really....

[anonms]

There is, however, as SWB version of the 120/Prado (which happens to be a 3-door).

[Naga Royal Guard]

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Superfresa</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im lost too...<p>Naga, I think the 75 and 78 Land Cruisers are the original square boxy ones, whilst the LC100 is 5 door, IFS, coil sprung one and the real seller here. There's no SWB version of it - all there is is a mainstream version of it with leafs and part time 4X4 - a dishonourable downgrade really....</TD></TR></TABLE><p>yeah your right, they look similar but the Amazon has only one wheelbase

[megadethmartyr]

I'd say Xterra ( that hurt, it hurt alot) simply because it has a 4 low. Granted the FJ has great approach and departure angles, but the Xterra does it all, and has 6 gears.

[Naga Royal Guard]

why does it hurt?

[Superfresa]

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Naga Royal Guard</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>yeah your right, they look similar but the Amazon has only one wheelbase</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Still lost...<p>I think I know what happens. You may be talking about the <B>Landcruiser </B> Prado, also known as <B>Land Cruiser</B> 90 and the long wheelbase as <B>Landcruiser</B> 120 which was offered in 2 wheelbases, 5 door and 3 door, with a 3.6 V6, 2.7 I4 or 3 Liter Diesel. However the New <B>Landcruiser</B> Prado is only offered as LWB. Then you are including in there the <B>Land Cruiser</B> 100 which is the 4.7 V8 or 3 Liter Turbodiesel, but which is slightly longer, wider and more capable than the <B>LandCruiser</B> Prado. Then you're also including the standard version of the <B>Land Cruiser </B>100 which is a <B>Land Cruiser</B> 100's body mounted on a hybrid of <B>Land Cruiser</B> 75, 78, 79 and <B>Land Cruiser</B> Prado Mechanicals. You are also including the <B>LandCruiser</B> 75 which is the 2 door bush bashing <B>Land Cruiser</B>, which is of course the SWB of the <B>Land Cruiser</B> 78 which is for 11 people, also known as <B>LandCruiser</B> Troop-carrier. Which is of course the same <B>Land Cruiser </B>79, but with a wagon body, not a high capacity pickup bed (although it can also be ordered as a standard pickup bed, called <B>LandCruiser</B> 74 and <B>Landcruiser</B> 75 Traybed). It is of course the same car behind the <B>Land Cruiser</B> 80 which evolved and was soon offered as well as a <B>Landcruiser</B> 85, which of course became the <B>Land Cruiser</B> Prado, or <B>Land Cruiser </B>120. <p><br>Anyone spot why It's easy to get lost? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>(and Thats without including models not in sale any more and without including the <B>Landcruiser</B> Lexii)

[evomk8]

Not on the list, but I'd take a SWB Pajero... :-P

[Superfresa]

They are alright but the suspension is a joke once the going gets tough. I love them, but just that keeps it from matching the Landcruiser prado.

[CarMattZu777]

ISUZU TROOPER!!!!! Well they were at least for their time..... especially the 80s models, those were great. But since they never replaced the Trooper, I would say the best one available now is some version of the Land Cruiser.

[Superfresa]

Troopers were good, but certainly not the best. They also suffered from a poor suspension setup and awkward wheel placement, but it was certainly in the top picks....<p>We nearly bought one but it was too small and expensive...