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Swallow Doretti 05-18-2017 04:26 PM

The New World Order
 
With GM's announcement today that it is ceasing operations in India, South Africa and East Africa, there's a good chance that the global rankings of automakers by size will look vastly different in 2018 than it has previously:

1) Nissan-Renault-Mitsubishi
2) Toyota
3) Volkswagen Group
4) Hyundai-Kia
5) General Motors
6) Ford Motor Co
7) FCA
8) PSA
9) Honda

There's also a chance PSA may pass FCA before the decade is out

Who would have expected any of this?

Modern Design 05-18-2017 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Swallow Doretti (Post 485438)
With GM's announcement today that it is ceasing operations in India, South Africa and East Africa, there's a good chance that the global rankings of automakers by size will look vastly different in 2018 than it has previously:

1) Nissan-Renault-Mitsubishi
2) Toyota
3) Volkswagen Group
4) Hyundai-Kia
5) General Motors
6) Ford Motor Co
7) FCA
8) PSA
9) Honda

There's also a chance PSA may pass FCA before the decade is out

Who would have expected any of this?

I sure saw this coming. I have been warning people on here for a very long time.

Quote:

Is the Automobile Industry in the Process of Collapsing?
http://carspyshots.net/showthread.ph...obile+industry

pjl35 05-18-2017 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Modern Design (Post 485445)
I sure saw this coming. I have been warning people on here for a very long time.


http://carspyshots.net/showthread.ph...obile+industry

THOSE ARE NOT THE SAME F***ING THING! :banghead::banghead::banghead:

You've also only been a member here for a little over a year. That's not a "very long time."

Modern Design 05-18-2017 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pjl35 (Post 485446)
THOSE ARE NOT THE SAME F***ING THING! :banghead::banghead::banghead:

You've also only been a member here for a little over a year. That's not a "very long time."

YES IT IS and it is only getting worse. :P

Ford Drops to 52-Week Low Despite Layoff Plans
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/for...ans-2017-05-18

I believe the layoffs will be much more than 1,400; brace yourself. :D I waited to post this information so people around here have a little time to brace themselves.

pjl35 05-18-2017 08:32 PM

Ford laying off employees and a corresponding stock price drop does not at all prove your assertion that the entire industry is collapsing. Just like none of your other posts or linked articles add up to that conclusion.

Talking to you is more pointless than trying to FaceTime someone in Airplane Mode with no WiFi.

Enjoy your tinfoil hat and your bunker.

Modern Design 05-18-2017 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pjl35 (Post 485449)
Ford laying off employees and a corresponding stock price drop does not at all prove your assertion that the entire industry is collapsing. Just like none of your other posts or linked articles add up to that conclusion.

Talking to you is more pointless than trying to FaceTime someone in Airplane Mode with no WiFi.

Enjoy your tinfoil hat and your bunker.

Do you really believe the majority of the recent automobile industry news is positive? You give me some auto industry news which points to positive gains in the auto industry instead of the decline in the auto industry I have been talking about. :whistle:

Modern Design 05-18-2017 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pjl35 (Post 485449)
Ford laying off employees and a corresponding stock price drop does not at all prove your assertion that the entire industry is collapsing. Just like none of your other posts or linked articles add up to that conclusion.

Talking to you is more pointless than trying to FaceTime someone in Airplane Mode with no WiFi.

Enjoy your tinfoil hat and your bunker.

By the end of 2017, you will have changed your mind; hindsight is 20/20. :D

SV 05-19-2017 04:03 AM

The auto industry appears to have topped out in the US for the time being, but that's a far cry from anything resembling collapse. If sales drop 40% again like they did in 2008-9, then maybe such talk will be warranted, but that doesn't appear to be what's happening. A flattening or slight decline in sales like the early 90s or 2000s looks more likely. That being said I don't know why you appear to want some sort of apocalypse to happen, whether in the auto industry or society at large.

As for GM, I think it's good that they're concerning themselves more with profitability than volume, but I wonder if dropping out of India will prove to be a missed opportunity in the long run.

Modern Design 05-19-2017 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by SV (Post 485460)
The auto industry appears to have topped out in the US for the time being, but that's a far cry from anything resembling collapse. If sales drop 40% again like they did in 2008-9, then maybe such talk will be warranted, but that doesn't appear to be what's happening. A flattening or slight decline in sales like the early 90s or 2000s looks more likely. That being said I don't know why you appear to want some sort of apocalypse to happen, whether in the auto industry or society at large.

As for GM, I think it's good that they're concerning themselves more with profitability than volume, but I wonder if dropping out of India will prove to be a missed opportunity in the long run.

What is happening right now will be much worse than 2008-9. There is no I can stop what is about to happen.

swizzle 05-19-2017 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Swallow Doretti (Post 485438)
...1) Nissan-Renault-Mitsubishi...There's also a chance PSA may pass FCA before the decade is out...Who would have expected any of this?

R-N-M = volume but total crap products, which will likely result in Mitsubishi getting axed as people decide they don't want cars that die at 75-100K miles.

FCA will be sold to the Chinese or Hyundai-Kia, but only Ram and Jeep will survive and the Italians will go home.

Anyone with common sense can see that brands will consolidate and or disappear.


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