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Old 09-04-2019, 03:33 PM
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This is now the production version, with preorders starting in select markets (mostly European); Looks 99% like the last concept;






Finally camera based wing mirrors that don't look like the stomp of a broken mirror, and the screens well integrated into the dash at a natural viewing position (but to me still an answer to a question nobody asked); Otherwise it still has the clean and futuristic looks of a concept car in and outside, though thankfully still with proper HVACs buttons and a volume knob...

Otherwise, you get a 35,5 kWh battery good for 220km of range (not that exciting, but probably realistic), however with a 805 Quickcharge in 30 minutes possibility, and two versions with either 100 or 113kw of output, with the more powerful one being good for 0-100kph (62mph) in 8 sec.

ANd, like with some brands recently, you get an AI assistant, that you can wake up (very original) by saying "OK Honda"...
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Old 09-04-2019, 04:13 PM
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That is so cool. I remember seeing the concept and hoping it would make it into production. What a superb little car!
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While it is true this looks 99% like the last concept, it unfortunately doesn't look nearly as neat as the original Urban EV concept. IMO it lost all its mojo which is really sad, as the concept was an instant "must buy" for me
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It's perfect yet flawed. I really don't care what the concept looked like. This is so well proportioned and detailed. Very simple and honest. I hope this leads future Honda designs.

The range is way too low and it's priced too high. And it's completely absent from the US market for some idiotic reason.
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The range is way too low and it's priced too high. And it's completely absent from the US market for some idiotic reason.
You identified the reasons right there. Price + size (and probably range) made Honda decide against it being a viable product for the U.S.
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It's perfect yet flawed. I really don't care what the concept looked like. This is so well proportioned and detailed. Very simple and honest. I hope this leads future Honda designs.

The range is way too low and it's priced too high. And it's completely absent from the US market for some idiotic reason.
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You identified the reasons right there. Price + size (and probably range) made Honda decide against it being a viable product for the U.S.
Also, unless the regulations are changed soon, it would have to be sold with door mirrors in place of camera pods and outer dashboard screens, as the rear view door cameras aren't legal in the USA.
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I think that in this city car, the range is less of an issue than in a proper mid sized sedan or CUV, where you will go on trips and holiday, for a city car used mostly on short trips, the 220km is okay, most people don't drive that in a week (in Europe that is, US urban areas are larger);

The important stuff, and more and more important that will be, is the quickcharge option, and 80% in 30 minutes is usable, and given the number of electric cars is growing a lot faster than teh number of charging points, the time you can spend at a plug will certainly be limited at a point.
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Also, unless the regulations are changed soon, it would have to be sold with door mirrors in place of camera pods and outer dashboard screens, as the rear view door cameras aren't legal in the USA.
Yup that too! Although the NHSTA is reportedly FINALLY testing camera mirrors/looking into them
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What is the price? (did I miss it in the link)

I also don't know how viable it would be here, but it'd be actually kind of neat to have an affordable-ish commuter runabout be a tech showcase for Honda (and also very much in keeping w/ their history in the US, I think). It'd also probably be the only Honda I'd be truly interested in (I do a lot of short-distance, city driving)....
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What is the price? (did I miss it in the link)

I also don't know how viable it would be here, but it'd be actually kind of neat to have an affordable-ish commuter runabout be a tech showcase for Honda (and also very much in keeping w/ their history in the US, I think). It'd also probably be the only Honda I'd be truly interested in (I do a lot of short-distance, city driving)....
Pricing estimates noted here: https://www.theverge.com/2019/3/5/18...otor-show-2019 - 25,000 and 40,000 ($33,000 to $52,000).

What I would love to see from them is a small electric crossover (something bigger than the HR-V but smaller than the CR-V...or about the CR-V's size) with this kind of styling. That would definitely make waves here.
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