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Old 09-11-2019, 12:16 AM
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While not groundbreaking in terms of styling, but in terms to making EV's more accessible to the mass market it's a home run.
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While not groundbreaking in terms of styling, but in terms to making EV's more accessible to the mass market it's a home run.
Not so fast. It's going to be 100% absent in a very large EV friendly market with plenty of people who can easily afford it. Selling it in the USA advantageously priced to the Model 3 and giving it a Hyundai warranty would have been a success move. My guess is that VW cannot price it effectively.
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Old 09-11-2019, 01:38 AM
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Not so fast. It's going to be 100% absent in a very large EV friendly market with plenty of people who can easily afford it. Selling it in the USA advantageously priced to the Model 3 and giving it a Hyundai warranty would have been a success move. My guess is that VW cannot price it effectively.
Given that the next Golf isnít coming here besides the GTI, they couldíve branded this as an e-Golf and taken out the Model 3 at its knees
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Given that the next Golf isnít coming here besides the GTI, they couldíve branded this as an e-Golf and taken out the Model 3 at its knees
Once again VW shows its arrogance and ineptitude.
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Old 09-11-2019, 06:44 AM
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taken out the Model 3 at its knees
I don't know about that. Even if they're relatively similar cars, I think Tesla (at least in LA) has some weird mystique that makes it more desirable that a similarly priced car from a mainstream manufacturer. People move from the Prius to the Tesla 3. Those are people who are never, IMHO, going to consider a German car, even if the Tesla 3 isn't exactly, er, high quality. People who get Teslas are looking for status and look at a car as a gigantic smartphone (meaning that they'll forgive flaws that would be lethal to another car manufacturer to have the newest thing out there).

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Old 09-11-2019, 07:55 AM
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While not groundbreaking in terms of styling, but in terms to making EV's more accessible to the mass market it's a home run.
I'll wait for actual availability and final prices; VW has so far never been cheap, especially not once you start adding options to base models that most other cars have as standard...
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Once again VW shows its arrogance and ineptitude.
Or you're just showing your bias.

VW have said that the US will be getting the crossover version, since Americans prefer them to hatchbacks. Obviously they're a business and they've decided to sell into a certain market the body shape they think will have the most success.
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Or you're just showing your bias.

VW have said that the US will be getting the crossover version, since Americans prefer them to hatchbacks. Obviously they're a business and they've decided to sell into a certain market the body shape they think will have the most success.
And that is your bias. Everyone here expresses opinions. All opinions are biased. Thus, saying that my comment shows my bias is disingenuous on your part. I am not alone in saying that VW's vision for the North American market is inept. It's why they are an also-ran here rather than a brand that is taken seriously.
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Might be delayed due to gremlins, anyone know if the source, Manager Magazin is trustworthy?

https://europe.autonews.com/automake...ch-report-says

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Volkswagen is still struggling with "massive" software problems with its ID3 compact electric car, according to a German business magazine.

The software glitches may force to abandon the EV's planned sales launch in summer, Manager Magazin reported.

The problems stem from the basic architecture of the ID3's software, which was developed "too hastily," the magazine said, citing VW's own experts. Many of the system's elements do not understand each other, leading to dropouts and other difficulties, the report said.

Hundreds of test drivers of the car are reporting up to 300 errors a day, the magazine said.

More than 10,000 technicians are trying to solve the problems, which could delay the ID3's launch by up to a year, the report said.

The ID3 will be a rival to the Tesla Model 3 and base models will cost under 30,000 euros in Germany.

It is the first electric car based on the automaker's MEB electric architecture developed to offer a long driving range and fast charging. VW said the platform will underpin 27 EVs by the end of 2022 from its VW, Audi, Skoda and Seat brands including the VW ID4 crossover aimed at customers in the U.S. and China. The Golf-sized ID3 is targeted at European market and is not expected to be sold in the U.S.

VW Group is touting the ID3 as a car that is as strategically important to the automaker's future as the Beetle and the Golf were in the past. CEO Herbert Diess says the ID3 will move "electric mobility from niche to mainstream."

In January, VW said that establishing the car's powerful new electronics and software architecture was a challenge but said that the market launch in the summer remained in place.

Manager Magazin reported in December that the glitches meant over 20,000 ID3 cars would be built without a full software suite, requiring teams of engineers to manually fix the problem post-production at additional cost.

VW started series production of the ID3 at its plant in Zwickau, Germany, in November. It said it is using the months until deliveries of the first cars to fix issues that may come up during further field testing.

Any delay in the ID3 could prove costly for VW, which is counting on the model to help meet stringent new European fleet emissions targets introduced at the beginning of last month.
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Old 02-26-2020, 09:28 PM
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Wow.... just wow.

First diesel gate - which cost them dearly (and is the largest contributing reason for their EV push) and now said EV's are sitting, collecting dust (I've heard there is about 10,000 produced that are dealing w/ this problem).

At this rate, VW is going to spend more on parking than marketing!
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