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Old 03-29-2018, 04:19 PM
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Having seen the Amarok (and Ranger) in the UK recently, my sense is that they are both plenty big enough to compete in this segment.

However Amarok doesn't use the MQB chassis, rather its body on frame. It would be much less disruptive to go over to the MQB for an Atlas type pick up.
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Old 03-29-2018, 05:17 PM
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How is it a growing segment with ONE entry in the entire segment with that one model selling dismally?
small pickups is a segment. not car based small pickups. just like BOF SUVs compete with unibody SUV's, or at least they did when they were at one point in the same size classes but most BOF SUV's are the biggest of the big now. for most people this would likely be more than sufficient for what they'll use the pickup for, but it will be an uphill marketing battle. the original Ridgeline was successful (thus making a second generation of it) before they made it look like an accord.
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Old 03-29-2018, 05:20 PM
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small pickups is a segment. not car based small pickups. just like BOF SUVs compete with unibody SUV's, or at least they did when they were at one point in the same size classes but most BOF SUV's are the biggest of the big now. for most people this would likely be more than sufficient for what they'll use the pickup for, but it will be an uphill marketing battle. the original Ridgeline was successful (thus making a second generation of it) before they made it look like an accord.
Faulty logic. The Tacoma and the GM twins far outsell the Ridgeline. The Ridgeline was never a volume seller and Honda decided to be stubborn by repeating their error. The result is another sales dud. People want real pickups in this size. Lifestyle pickups one size smaller are more likely to be accepted.
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Old 03-29-2018, 05:26 PM
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Faulty logic. The Tacoma and the GM twins far outsell the Ridgeline.
because look at the Ridgeline!
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Old 03-29-2018, 05:29 PM
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Faulty logic. The Tacoma and the GM twins far outsell the Ridgeline. The Ridgeline was never a volume seller and Honda decided to be stubborn by repeating their error. The result is another sales dud. People want real pickups in this size. Lifestyle pickups one size smaller are more likely to be accepted.
Isn't this Atlas smaller than Amarok?
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Old 03-29-2018, 05:35 PM
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Isn't this Atlas smaller than Amarok?
Not by much. The Atlas is a rather large vehicle so the difference in size between an Atlas an the mid-sized Amarok is likely nil.
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Old 03-29-2018, 10:53 PM
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VW don't seem to be planning to put it into production.

https://www.caradvice.com.au/635579/...noak-revealed/

Looks great though...
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Old 03-30-2018, 07:36 AM
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Isn't this Atlas smaller than Amarok?
If anything I'd expect the Atlas to be wider and way more spacious inside, the Amarok isn't the largest mid sized Piuck up in Europe, and the Atlas did seem to have a more "US compatible" stance in flesh, so lifting it and giving it a bed certainly makes it more imposing, despite being car derived. But yes, size wise offering both in the same market wouldn't make much sense...
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