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Old 06-15-2018, 08:57 PM
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Saw this on Autoblog; I think it looks promising...and kinda what the previous gen CTS was (size wise)...the tail lights (if representative of finished product) looks interesting - and pretty different from the concept.

Lets hope they nail this one.

https://www.autoblog.com/2018/06/14/...pe-spy-photos/
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Old 06-15-2018, 11:53 PM
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GIVE IT A NAME, Cadillac!!!

CT5 is Jockitch DeNiaspan idiocy. DITCH IT.
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Old 06-16-2018, 03:31 AM
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GIVE IT A NAME, Cadillac!!!

CT5 is Jockitch DeNiaspan idiocy. DITCH IT.
Agree that a name would be a vast improvement.

But I also think Cadillac needs to develop a more distinctive design language. This easily could be a Genesis or a Lexus.... and I don't think that's going to give Cadillac the sales results it so desperately wants....
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Old 06-16-2018, 04:12 AM
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Agree that a name would be a vast improvement.

But I also think Cadillac needs to develop a more distinctive design language. This easily could be a Genesis or a Lexus.... and I don't think that's going to give Cadillac the sales results it so desperately wants....
I agree that the styling looks dull like the exceedingly boring CT6. Ditch the 2.0T. Have the base be a V6 with a low cost V8 option. Price it VERY advantageously like 15% lower than a comparable German car. Go for some American thunder and throw on some chrome.
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Old 06-16-2018, 12:23 PM
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OMG is that a prototype car? like a real car with low bumpers, low H point and no ground clearance with a LOW ROOF!? they still make those?!
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OMG is that a prototype car? like a real car with low bumpers, low H point and no ground clearance with a LOW ROOF!? they still make those?!
Yes. It was set in motion before the sedan market died and is likely to be the same non-success for sales as the ATS and the CTS.
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Old 06-18-2018, 12:45 PM
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This car feels to me to be what the last gen CTS was; a nice in between ATS and (current gen) CTS...

I also think the CTS name holds some cache -but would be fine if they did a traditional name as well....

Hopefully one sedan can make up the volume of two - as that seems to be the plan.
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This car feels to me to be what the last gen CTS was; a nice in between ATS and (current gen) CTS...

I also think the CTS name holds some cache -but would be fine if they did a traditional name as well....

Hopefully one sedan can make up the volume of two - as that seems to be the plan.
I think this will be a complete failure as it was conceived while sedans were still a thing. Now if it comes priced like an ATS with CTS size--with aggressive leasing--it could sell.

But Cadillac is dead until they get a true vision of what they are as an American premium vehicle rather than a BMW/Mercedes chaser.
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Old 06-18-2018, 06:11 PM
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I think this will be a complete failure as it was conceived while sedans were still a thing. Now if it comes priced like an ATS with CTS size--with aggressive leasing--it could sell.

But Cadillac is dead until they get a true vision of what they are as an American premium vehicle rather than a BMW/Mercedes chaser.
Agreed. Esp w/ the Kia Stinger, upcoming Genesis G70, and the already extant G80, I really don't see a point in Cadillac, unless they have a more distinctive design language (like what Volvo is doing), better quality interiors, and significantly undercut the Germans in pricing.

Not every car needs to have European handling (esp since the Germans are very fond of gigantic wheels). Lexus became very succesful in this country b/c it offered something the Germans couldn't....
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Old 06-18-2018, 08:47 PM
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I actually don't think Caddy should try to be German. That's what got them into trouble in the first place. Put a different way, I don't think Caddy knows what it is anymore.

History says that Caddy was a super luxurious brand that offered great ride and comfort - and it was somewhat attainable for the average person. I see Lincoln as trying to evolve / return to their roots as it kind of looks like they figured that out.

Specific to a sedan; the world absolutely needs sedans. Luxury cars that are quiet, comfortable, attractive and handle really well - at a price that is fair for what is being offered. Build that car, and consumers will come. Companies need to stop relying on the 'well CUV's are taking over - that's why sedan sales are down' - it's complete nonsense. Honda Civic, Camry disagree with those sentiments.
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