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Old 07-27-2018, 07:18 AM
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Wonder if BMW will introduce a 1 series sedan now with the future model.
From what I understand, the US will be getting the Chinese made 1 series sedan form 2019 on...

Not sure about Europe though, I don't think that it is a major market for this either, given the love of hatchbacks (or cross overs)
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Old 07-27-2018, 08:17 AM
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https://www.caranddriver.com/news/20...hotos-and-info

FWD versions in the US get a torsion beam rear suspension (!!!).
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Old 07-27-2018, 08:27 AM
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FWD versions in the US get a torsion beam rear suspension (!!!).
Everywhere else too, and so does the hatch. True premium tech, but hey, you get 2 7" screens as standard (likely those comparable to $39 Amazon fire tablets); Yes, before anyone starts the teaching how a torsion beam is good enough for a small FWED car, it is still sad that an expensive, supposedly premium car (and the A-Class is neither that small or that light) gets inferior suspension to a KIA Ceed or Hyundai i30, that cost less than half of a base A-Class in their respective base trim...
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Old 07-27-2018, 06:37 PM
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It will be quite difficult to position a CLA based on the same drivetrain next to it (or rather above it). I fear that it will suffer the same way as the latest generation CLS that has lost all the mojo the first generation had.

It might be the fact that concepts like CLA and CLS worked especially well when regular, A, C and E class designs were on the conservative side. With current generations becoming quite sleek and modern, the designers at Mercedes-Benz find themselves trapped in a gap becoming increasingly narrow for CLA and CLS.
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Old 07-27-2018, 07:08 PM
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Wonder if BMW will introduce a 1 series sedan now with the future model.
Not sure about a 1er sedan, but there's a 2 series Gran Coupe coming up that is no doubt aimed at the A Class variants

https://www.motortrend.com/news/spie...inter-testing/
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Old 07-28-2018, 12:06 AM
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Yes, before anyone starts the teaching how a torsion beam is good enough for a small FWED car, it is still sad that an expensive, supposedly premium car (and the A-Class is neither that small or that light) gets inferior suspension to a KIA Ceed or Hyundai i30
Agree w/ all of this. The Jetta GLI will presumably compete in roughly the same same, and if VW is giving the GLI a fully independent rear suspension, then so can MB. =P It's as simple as that, IMHO.

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It might be the fact that concepts like CLA and CLS worked especially well when regular, A, C and E class designs were on the conservative side.
I think that's it exactly. Even the E-Class coupe used to be relatively upright. The first gen CLS also had a much nicer interior; the interior of the current E-Class sedan really doesn't need improvement (from a materials, fit/finish perspective). That's why I think the next CLS could just be the new E-Class....
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