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Old 01-03-2020, 08:19 PM
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Default Tesla has best quarter ever with 112,000 deliveries

https://www.autoblog.com/2020/01/03/tesla-2019-sales/


Good for them! The future is looking bright as well IMO...Model Y is poised to launched next quarter. Shanghai gigafactory is online producing 1,000 cars per week (barely less than a year after breaking ground!), Cybertruck (while controversial in appearance) has 250,000 reservations and even critical pundits acknowledge the spec’s are impressive), all the competition that has been coming for the last 4 years are still not in dealerships (ex Taycan which spec. wise is lacklustre - ESPECIALLY the dismal 205 mile EPA range) and they’re starting to make money... things are looking up. It’s nice to see an American company do what they do best, innovate and make great products.
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Old 01-30-2020, 01:59 PM
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https://www.autoblog.com/2020/01/29/...rnings-profit/

Another $100M+ in profit...improved gross margins...Model Y has started production w/ deliveries happening in March (ahead of schedule - originally pegged at summer), Model Y now has improved range of 315 miles / +500km and +$6B in the bank w/ no foreseeable net losses (ex one time hits due to tooling needs for new products)...

Again - an American company is doing really well. Still a long ways to go - however, the road paved is now starting to bear meaningful fruit. There are a lot of parallels between Tesla and AZ in this regard. Well done!
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It’s really unbelievable how slow other carmakers have been in terms of getting competitors to the market.
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Itís really unbelievable how slow other carmakers have been in terms of getting competitors to the market.
It also seems that they are still compromised in either range or performance (or, both), and capacities of battery production are also still quite low, as it appears.
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Old 02-11-2020, 06:42 PM
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It also seems that they are still compromised in either range or performance (or, both), and capacities of battery production are also still quite low, as it appears.
Given Tesla has such a huge head start that's not surprising. Even though Tesla tech is all open source (or it was at least?) that still likely creates a 2-3 year lag for implementation. Even the Taycan, cool as it may be, is no where near the value of a model S as a daily driver. and no one will use one as a track car, at least not consistently.
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Honestly, it's a resistance to change. Traditional car companies have MASSIVE $'s booked for their engine tech; from here they can do incremental changes with decent results - so to change that to a completely new business model is going to take time. Further - they need to figure out how they can profitably monetize the EV technology considering there is a lot less service on an EV vs. I.C.E. car. Also - when all you read about in the news is that EV's are a fad and that Tesla is going to go broke - it's tough for a board to decide to change gears (no pun intended).

VW HAD to do it as part of diesel gate. GM is doing it begrudgingly (more because Bob Lutz was tired of being out engineered by some snot nose California company). Ford has dragged their heels - but are doing something ok w/ Mach E. Toyota has basically said 'they're coming' (whatever that means) and Honda is just in denial.

Problem is that the traditional companies aren't looking at this as a full car solution; part of Tesla's appeal is the superchargers; the freedom to drive pretty much anywhere w/o the fear of range anxiety. They felt that without this - consumers would be wary of buying an EV (fair point)...the traditional companies are leaving the charging to be someone elses problem - so the speed / network just isn't there...that's why (IMO) products like iPace, e-Tron and the Mercedes offerings are really struggling to make inroads. VW is kind of offering a solution - but they're so far behind, it becomes a 'whatever' thing.

Tesla has open sourced it's patents on most of their products (ex batteries).

Bottom line - a Telsa Model S bought in 2012 (w/ the 85 battery pack) still has more range than any of the new offerings of any EV's out there.... disappointing. Let's see how that works out for the traditional companies. With China mandating 100% EV's by 2030 (not sure of the date) and them being the largest car market in the world - the traditional companies have a LOT of work to do....
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part of Tesla's appeal is the superchargers; the freedom to drive pretty much anywhere w/o the fear of range anxiety.
No accounting for stupid when it comes to owners:

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TO be fair, a lot of people run out of fuel too; Stupidity and carelessness are everywhere.
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Old 02-13-2020, 01:51 PM
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As an owner of a Model S, who's arrived home w/ less than 25KM's of range, you have to be a REALLY special type of stupid to run out of charge. If using navigation - it tells you where you need to stop and for how long to get a charge (and literally navigates you to the charger)...if not using the navigation - warning bells start going off around 70KM's of range...again, a REALLY special type of dumb to run out of range....
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