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Old 09-26-2017, 03:48 PM
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Default 2020 BMW 2 series F44 Bimmer

http://www.carscoops.com/2017/09/sco...ran-coupe.html

The next generation 2 series as a Gran Coupe version testing. And yes, it is rather obviously FWD, likel sharing quite a lot with the (so far) China only 1 series sedan (and X1, 2 series Active tourer and Mini Countryman)





Rather unsurprisingly, BMW won't leave the Mercedes CLA without competition; It even seems to copy the really long front overhang ;)

Interestingly, I do see quite a lot of Hyundai i30 liftback in the side view, just with more overhang; Also, the article states it will be presented in 2020, but form the state of the prototype, I highly doubt it is still so long away. My guess is we will se that late next year or early 2019 latest.

Also I guess this means that the next generation Audi A3 will receive a 4 /5 door coupe sedan version as well...
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Old 09-26-2017, 11:27 PM
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Rather ungainly rear roof...
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Old 09-27-2017, 12:08 PM
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Looks like a FWD Subaru WRX, which is a bad thing, as despite the WRX poor proportions, at least it has the best AWD setup.
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Old 09-27-2017, 12:22 PM
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Looks like a FWD Subaru WRX, which is a bad thing, as despite the WRX poor proportions, at least it has the best AWD setup.
Pretty certain this will have a run of the mill Haldex AWD system without too many special features. The premium badge will be enough.
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Old 09-27-2017, 01:03 PM
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Pretty certain this will have a run of the mill Haldex AWD system without too many special features. The premium badge will be enough.
Haldex is not a bad decision. I'd rather have the Haldex any day. Besides, Subaru's AWD system isn't any more sophisticated than anyone else's and if anything it's less so. An AWD system does not need to drive all four wheels all the time and is more desirable when it drives all four wheels only when needed.
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Old 09-27-2017, 01:24 PM
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BMW needs to stop.
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Haldex is not a bad decision. I'd rather have the Haldex any day. Besides, Subaru's AWD system isn't any more sophisticated than anyone else's and if anything it's less so. An AWD system does not need to drive all four wheels all the time and is more desirable when it drives all four wheels only when needed.
Haldex is indeed not a bad system, but it is also a rather standard FWD system. It will be fine for most people as a traction aid and in winter driving...

However you can still have "on demand 4WD" with something more sophisticated including trick differentials tec. (Focus RS, e.g.), I just doubt this will bother. The system in the A-Class is also just reacting when the car is understeering good old FWD style, thus making the AMG A45 mostly a straight line speed/show off vehicle. But with the AMG badge, few enthusiasts seem to care, so probably BMW won't either....
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Old 09-27-2017, 07:55 PM
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While I remain annoyed at the fill-every-niche-possible approach of the Germans, I have to say that I actually don't mind the way this looks at all. Certainly far more attractive than the CLA, IMHO. I don't even think the front overhang is that long.
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A sonata or camry is a better value. But this is for a CERTAIN clientellie.
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This and the CLA exist only to sell emblems.
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