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Old 10-25-2017, 01:20 PM
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...Soooooooooo, no update to the 300, Charger, Challenger, Journey. What a waste.
It's evident that all development of new Dodges and Chryslers has ended. It's also evident that money is tight given the trickle of product.
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Old 10-25-2017, 01:31 PM
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Soooooooooo, no update to the 300, Charger, Challenger, Journey. What a waste.
Not that this means the end result is any different, but this is really only focusing on production at those specific plants that are Ram/Jeep heavy to begin with.

So it doesn't necessarily mean updates for Chrysler/Dodge aren't planned (but I still won't hold by breath given their track record).
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It's evident that all development of new Dodges and Chryslers has ended. It's also evident that money is tight given the trickle of product.
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Not that this means the end result is any different, but this is really only focusing on production at those specific plants that are Ram/Jeep heavy to begin with.

So it doesn't necessarily mean updates for Chrysler/Dodge aren't planned (but I still won't hold by breath given their track record).
There are 'rumours' that Sergio has been showing concepts of the next 300/Charger to 'select dealers' in a 'see - they're coming' move. To me it sounds a bit more like Sergio showing dealers that are most vocal something to shut them up. It'd also be in his best interest to show potential Chrysler / Dodge buyers product that is 'in development - ready to roll'. Total BS IMO - but that's a rumour I'd heard; probably on this board
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There are 'rumours' that Sergio has been showing concepts of the next 300/Charger to 'select dealers' in a 'see - they're coming' move. To me it sounds a bit more like Sergio showing dealers that are most vocal something to shut them up. It'd also be in his best interest to show potential Chrysler / Dodge buyers product that is 'in development - ready to roll'. Total BS IMO - but that's a rumour I'd heard; probably on this board
Even then, we've seen what they were shown for the next-gen Ram 1500, and the nearly undisguised pics of it show that it's nothing at all like what they were shown....so definitely total BS.
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I'm not convinced that the new Ram 1500 will be new.

More of a heavy reskinning of the current model plus minor drivetrain mods. Hope to god they have the Ecodiesel reliability fixed. VM has sent so many badly performing engines over here.
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weird...my buddy has the eco-diesel and loves it. No issues yet - about 70,000km's on it.
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I'm not convinced that the new Ram 1500 will be new.

More of a heavy reskinning of the current model plus minor drivetrain mods. Hope to god they have the Ecodiesel reliability fixed. VM has sent so many badly performing engines over here.
Oh no, that's most definitely what it is. It's just a heavy reskin of the existing model.
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Oh no, that's most definitely what it is. It's just a heavy reskin of the existing model.
The "all new" F150 was an aluminum cab, hood, fenders, and bed on essentially the old F150. The "all new" Silverado/Sierra was largely a restyling of the one before. The "all new" Titan is really a restyle of the old Titan. Pickups are rarely all new.
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The "all new" F150 was an aluminum cab, hood, fenders, and bed on essentially the old F150. The "all new" Silverado/Sierra was largely a restyling of the one before. The "all new" Titan is really a restyle of the old Titan. Pickups are rarely all new.
Where did I suggest others were all-new compared to this or express an opinion on a fact that this wasn't all-new? I was simply responding to boston's comment about it...
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Do these trucks include Relative Humidity meters?

Relative Humidity - The sweat dripping off of one's nutsack whilst making consented love to their (typically) first cousin for the purpose of impregnation. Act is often performed in the states of Texas, Alabama and Hawaii upon a large open bedded vehicle built in the state of Michigan. See references : Sarah Palin, George Bush, Toby Keith
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