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Old 07-16-2008, 03:30 AM
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it has rear seats?
you would probably need very thin children to fit into this thing.
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Old 07-16-2008, 03:50 AM
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pretty cool
too bad it still looks like a modified elise
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Old 07-16-2008, 04:10 AM
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Dumb question but where is the engine in this thing? And which cars does it compete with? the Porsche 911?
The Eagle is mid-engine, rear-wheel drive. It is interesting that it is while still being a relatively useable 2+2. As Lotus stated in the press release for the Eagle, source worldcarfans.com:

"Eagerly anticipated and making its official global debut at the British Motorshow in London on July 22nd, the first all-new car from Lotus since the iconic Elise in 1995, will enter the sportscar market as the only mid-engined 2+2 in production."

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Old 07-16-2008, 06:31 AM
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It's nice. Yet another one of those cars that will be so much more exciting in person. And in bright metallic orange

As taskbearer noted, the similarities with the M250 concept are obvious, though of course it looks sharper and much more refined. I see a little bit of Artega in the waistline, but overall it is pure Lotus. As so many have said, this not only renders the Europa more or less irrelevant, it does so with so much style as to make the Europa look like a 10-year old piece of garbage kit car. This actually looks like it was produced by a real company

It's subtle and will only grow on me. I like it.
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Old 07-16-2008, 10:51 AM
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.... The philosophy is 100% similar to the 1999 M250 concept. This one is a lot more refined than that concept. Its amazing though that its been that long. the 276hp 3.5l V6 is not too far off from the M250s 250hp 3L V6 lets hope this car keeps the less than 1000kg(2200lbs) part of the equation.
I was gutted when the M250 got canned. This however is a suitable alternative. I want one, and can't wait to see it at the London show!


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As for the europa, that thing should never have been built. It does not even come close to this.
Yeah the Europa was like a giant WTF. I haven't seen 1 on the roads, everyone would rather buy a cheaper prettier Elise. The Eagle seems like a proper alternative and the car the Euopa should have been from the start.
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Old 07-16-2008, 12:02 PM
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More pics and info. 280hp after all! :)







Lotus, at last, is bound for the big time. On the 22 July at the London motor show, it will reveal this revolutionary £45,000, mid-engined, 2+2 coupé, codenamed the Lotus Eagle.

This is the car that Lotus believes will take it right to the heart of Porsche territory and transform Lotus Cars into the vibrant, 5000-cars-a-year manufacturing business that successive bosses have wanted for so long.

The 280bhp, 3.5-litre V6-powered coupé is being launched in both 2+2 and 2+0 forms. It takes Lotus back into the 170mph league it vacated when the Esprit ceased production in 2004.

Due in showrooms in early summer next year, the car’s real handle – a new ‘E’ name never before used by Lotus – won’t be revealed until the London show. Three names are still under consideration, and a decision will be made at the very last minute.

Design

The new coupé’s wheelbase is just 275mm – around 13 inches – longer than that of the Elise, but into that space goes an extra 75mm of driver’s seat travel, a V6 engine instead of an in-line four and enough rear legroom for a 5ft-tall female passenger.

Despite the fact that the overall length is 4344mm – 80mm shorter than a Porsche 911 – the safety structure waltzes through today’s toughest crash tests, and the boot can house a full set of golf clubs. “We set out to build a Tardis,” says Kimberley, “and I think we’ve succeeded.”

There’s nothing too radical about the interior, but it’s far classier and more comfortable than anything Lotus has done before. A key part of interior designer Anthony Bushell’s job has been searching out and negotiating with suppliers of prime-quality trim materials; Lotus is determined to convey longevity and class in the Eagle interior.

Body, chassis

The Eagle chassis uses Elise principles; it’s a self-supporting, bonded and riveted structure that combines folded sheet aluminium and extrusions.

This time, however, it is made in three pieces. A rear structure houses the V6 engine and impressively compact double wishbone rear suspension. A bolt-on front structure carries the double wishbone front suspension and provides a crash structure, which has proved a huge success in crash testing.

The Eagle suspension is the same ultra-modern assembly of forged aluminium wishbones, coil-over shock absorbers and specially designed uprights shown in Geneva earlier this year.

Some pretty extreme testing of the car at the Nürburgring has established, according to engineering director Roger Becker, that the car is already “a peach” to drive.

Engine, performance

Lotus has a close relationship with Toyota (which supplies its Elise engines) so it’s no surprise that the Eagle uses a 3.5-litre, Toyota-sourced V6. The electronic engine controls are Lotus’s, however, allowing it to have a sportier-than-Camry character.

Again, there is scope for development (the cleverly packaged engine bay is believed to have room for a supercharger) but for now Lotus believes that 280bhp in a car weighing less than 1400kg car is enough. The engine drives through a Toyota six-speed transmission, but this isn’t a link that Toyota makes in its own cars, so Lotus has engineered the clutch and gearchange.

The car is usefully faster around a track, we hear, than key rivals such as Porsche’s Cayman S. We suggested 165-170mph as a top speed and a 0-60mph time in the five-second bracket, and no one disagreed. The car is also expected to be easier on fuel and produce less CO2 than £50,000 performance cars usually do.

The future

Lotus planners foresee an eight-year life for the Eagle, and will launch a drophead version between two and three years into the car’s life. As with the Elise, there will be other versions of the car, which is even more versatile in its structure than its smaller sibling.

The Eagle will be made on a new production line alongside the Elise at Hethel, at a volume of around 2000 a year. Assembly of fully fledged production models will start at the very end of this year, with a target for first customer delivery of 1 May 2009.

At that stage, according to Mike Kimberley, Lotus will have changed its centre of gravity completely, while staying entirely true to its principles.

http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsAr...ncepts/233975/

LE: Hmmm...

'The Eagle uses a 3.5-litre, Toyota-sourced V6. The electronic engine controls are Lotus’s, however, allowing it to have a sportier-than-Camry character.
For now Lotus believes that 280bhp in a car weighing less than 1400kg car is enough. The engine drives through a Toyota six-speed transmission, but this isn’t a link that Toyota makes in its own cars, so Lotus has engineered the clutch and gearchange. The car is usefully faster around a track, we hear, than key rivals such as Porsche’s Cayman S. We suggested 165-170mph as a top speed and a 0-60mph time in the five-second bracket.'

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Old 07-16-2008, 02:03 PM
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Looks great... sleek and sharp at the same time. The only thing I would change would be the Elise - like rear end, I don't think it suits this car somehow.
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Old 07-16-2008, 02:15 PM
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'For now Lotus believes that 280bhp in a car weighing less than 1400kg car is enough'

Hmm... that's a bit heavier than I would've expected from Lotus. Still, this puts it right into the Cayman S territory. The more I look at it the more I like it. It looks a lot more exotic than Porsche's and BMW's offerings, and I like the idea of it being a mid-engined 2+2. The only car that comes to my mind employing this configuration is the Lamborghini Urraco...
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Old 07-16-2008, 04:52 PM
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This is going to be insanely fast with a 3.5 V6 and only 1400kgs the power-to-weight ratio will be massive. It also looks great and that interior looks very nice.
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Elegantly aggressive, Toyota reliability with nice power-to-weight, and very good interior content and features - I'm liking this Lotus Eagle more and more!
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