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  #31  
Old 03-06-2007, 07:05 PM
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Default OK here we go..... Current and upcoming cars

Jupiter
Until now been mainstream Euro brand, tho now trying to drag it into mainstream US too as other group brands would be seen as more expensive Euro cars in american eyes (and wallets)

Ariane
http://img261.imageshack.us/im...8.jpg
Launched mid 2006, based on reletively old but modified Lokar supermini platform as direct rival to 107 etc

Mercury
http://img118.imageshack.us/im...6.jpg
2005 update of car launched in 1998, due for replacement soon

http://img411.imageshack.us/im...3.jpg
http://img245.imageshack.us/im...4.jpg
All new Mercury (on all new platform, related to Costar) prob at least a yr away yet. Will be first in group to get this platform

Costar
http://img407.imageshack.us/im...0.jpg
http://img442.imageshack.us/im...8.jpg
New (late 2006) car based on brand new platform shared with Lokar Isis

Callisto
http://img250.imageshack.us/im...9.jpg
http://img442.imageshack.us/im...2.jpg
Costar based MPV to be produced in 5 seat (as pictured) and longer 7 seat versions.. Mid 2008

Orbital
http://img177.imageshack.us/im...4.jpg
2001 car (early 2007 update shown) last of old gen Jupiters, will be replaced by 2 cars, Euro Orbital and US Satellite (same platform but longer)

Endeavor
http://img177.imageshack.us/im...0.jpg
http://img250.imageshack.us/im...5.jpg
http://img169.imageshack.us/im...5.jpg
Largest Jupiter ever, US only. available with AWD on top models

Cirrus
http://img263.imageshack.us/im...3.jpg
OK I was wrong, other old school Jupiter, based on Lokar LV1 from 1997, has been around 9 yrs now

http://img263.imageshack.us/im...5.jpg
New Cirrus coming end of Summer, all new platform (though Costar etc based) First car to use it

Apollo
http://img249.imageshack.us/im...8.jpg
http://img248.imageshack.us/im...9.jpg
Jupiters largest Off Roader, Advanced Ladder France chassis, will be replaced by all new Monococh model within few yrs. Launched 1999

Comet
http://img169.imageshack.us/im...7.jpg
Costar based coupe, AWD in top v6 model, launched 2006

Atlantis
http://img92.imageshack.us/img...7.jpg
Upcoming (2008) 6 seat MPV/Coupe

Centurii
http://img442.imageshack.us/im...1.jpg
Quickly developed pickup, using Simplified ladder frame platform from larger Lokar Group Off Road vehicles. Out soon

Atlas
http://img442.imageshack.us/im...0.jpg
Again would use recycled parts of old ladder frame chassis... Jupiter version undecided.. this is how it looks so far, initial drawings from spring 2006.

OK so thats how Jupiter looks and will look, The rest will follow soon

Nath

PS sorry about how long that took, not used the site in a bit... and wasnt sure if could put thumbnails on.
Will get round to editing older posts and replace missing pictures with links


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Old 03-06-2007, 08:53 PM
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Default OK here we go..... Current and upcoming cars (Nath)

Lokar

Lokar is the groups main brand, slowly puching itself upmarket from late 90s on... this is how it looks now and in the near future

Brio 3
http://img441.imageshack.us/im...0.jpg
http://img441.imageshack.us/im...6.jpg
Launched 2005, new Brio is completely different from its FWD predecessor. Halfway in size between a Smart and original Mini, rear engined RWD and with 2 fold down rear seats. Started working on this car in 2002.

Brio 4?
http://img46.imageshack.us/img...7.jpg
2006 sketch for updated Brio, with more conventional (but more space efficient) front suspension

Escape
http://img296.imageshack.us/im...4.jpg
http://img46.imageshack.us/img...9.jpg
Sporting supermini, based on shortened Miranda.. though platform dates back to 1996 (heavily modified in current form) shares interior with Miranda. Top model be sold in US as Mini rival under name VZX (to avoid conflict with US Ford Escape).. VZX name is taken from late 80's Lokar hot hatch

Miranda
http://img126.imageshack.us/im...1.jpg
http://img122.imageshack.us/im...4.jpg
Late 2004 supermini, based on predecessor but bigger all round
4 door for NA and Eastern markets

Isis
http://img122.imageshack.us/im...9.jpg
http://img296.imageshack.us/im...3.jpg
sporting 5 door hatch, competes in Golf etc market but with emphasis on style, leaving the Jupiter Costar to take the practical market (sorry about dash colours, my ex coloured it in)

Idas
http://img245.imageshack.us/im...4.jpg
http://img120.imageshack.us/im...5.jpg
http://img246.imageshack.us/im...3.jpg
2003 Mondeo/Vectra competitor. Based on 1996 predecessor

http://img109.imageshack.us/im...8.jpg
http://img137.imageshack.us/im...5.jpg
Possible new (RWD) Idas

Conor
http://img169.imageshack.us/im...9.jpg
http://img409.imageshack.us/im...5.jpg
2006 Exec car

AV
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/3944/av8dp3.jpg
http://img339.imageshack.us/im...6.jpg
1997 luxury car, updated 2000.. AV12 coupe shown uses "long bonnet" front end style from V12 sedan on short wheelbase from V6 and V8 models

Deimos
http://img201.imageshack.us/im...1.jpg
Could be possible AV replacement... ongoing concept

Twirl Intervast
http://img292.imageshack.us/im...2.jpg
Based on previous gen Lokar Hatchback, launched in 1997

VjUE 6
http://img401.imageshack.us/im...8.jpg
http://img401.imageshack.us/im...1.jpg
http://img254.imageshack.us/im...8.jpg
Based on widened Isis platform the VjUE (named Versatility, joy of Use and Ergonomics in a Japanese concept car like moment of madness) is a 6 seat mini MPV, also to be a longer VjUE 8 with a third row of 2 seats.

Aliza
http://img254.imageshack.us/im...0.jpg
http://img187.imageshack.us/im...5.jpg
2006 update of my 1998 MPV, old model shown for interior pic, next model will move upmarket to allow for VjUE 8

LV3
http://img123.imageshack.us/im...8.jpg
Launched in 2005, the LV3 is more than a reskin of the 1997 LV1. chassis has been widened for benefit of stability and has all new interior and engines

LV4
http://img123.imageshack.us/im...4.jpg
Launched at same time as LV3, LV4 is a 7 seat adaptation

Landslide
http://img179.imageshack.us/im...8.jpg
Launched in 1998 on an at the time advanced ladder frame chassis the Lanslide received a major overhaul for 2005

Ventura
http://img407.imageshack.us/im...2.jpg
http://img296.imageshack.us/im...8.jpg
Launched in 1998 alongside the Lanslide, The Ventura is Lokars top Off Road vehicle. Received a minor facelift over a yr ago (1998 exterior shown)

http://img410.imageshack.us/im...4.jpg
http://img187.imageshack.us/im...8.jpg
New Ventura for 2008, all new monococh

T100
http://img337.imageshack.us/im...7.jpg
http://img246.imageshack.us/im...1.jpg
New Van, Current van dates back to 1994 (have no pics on computer) this one is on simplified version of off road chassis... possible Jupiter version too...
Been on hold for a while, drawings date back to early 2006. Project may be merjed with similar from Montgomery (see SV)

Manta
http://img102.imageshack.us/im...8.jpg
http://img411.imageshack.us/im...4.jpg
Manta was developed alongside and based on the Brio 3, launched late last yr

Jinty
http://img409.imageshack.us/im...9.jpg
http://img409.imageshack.us/im...2.jpg
http://img409.imageshack.us/im...6.jpg
New 2006 Jinty is RWD and replaced both the 1995 original and the 1998 HST

Predator
http://img340.imageshack.us/im...7.jpg
http://img123.imageshack.us/im...0.jpg
1998 Predator, tiny mid engined sports car.. available with "warm hatch" 1.6 and 2.0 engines, hugely powerful 2.0 diesel with both turbo and supercharger (to come in at differing points in the rev range) and fast revving small capacity 3.0 v12

http://img131.imageshack.us/im...9.jpg
http://img407.imageshack.us/im...3.jpg
New Predator, more conventional front engine RWD.. 2009...

GTS
http://img297.imageshack.us/im...8.jpg
2000 large tourer

Venom
http://img174.imageshack.us/im...1.jpg
2003 Supercar

Again, when i find more they will be added



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Old 03-06-2007, 09:10 PM
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Default OK here we go..... Current and upcoming cars (Nath)

Reliant

Now, as sure you know Reliant was a Tamworth manufacturer best known for the Scimitar and various 3 wheelers..
They went into receivership in 1994 so I decided to design a "new" reliant, something I kept on doing, so here is the modern range... Fairly basic but modern cars with options of 4WD (I know, ironic) and scuff plates etc, designed with eastern european/developing countries in mind, as well as Western Europe.. No plans for US

Revv
http://img237.imageshack.us/im...2.jpg
Near Identical to Jupiter Ariane.. Launched in 2006

Relay
http://img175.imageshack.us/im...4.jpg
http://img123.imageshack.us/im...8.jpg
Large Supermini, comes as 4 door, 5 door and an Estate

Re-Va
http://img90.imageshack.us/img...6.jpg
Heavily based on the outgoing Lokar Twirl Intervast mini MPV, competes with Berlingo, Kangoo etc and replaced the Lokar TS-V as the groups small van last year.

Series-4
http://img123.imageshack.us/im...2.jpg
Small saloon and Estate dating back to 1997, based on old Lokar Twirl

Regale
http://img123.imageshack.us/im...3.jpg
http://img408.imageshack.us/im...4.jpg
Series-4 replacement due later in yr, based upon Jupiter Costar

Scimitar
http://img90.imageshack.us/img...9.jpg
http://img85.imageshack.us/img...7.jpg
Launched in 2001 and based on stripped down chassis frm 1996 Lokar Conor the Scimitar was designed to be built in in fibreglass in the Tamworth factory (other Reliants are built in Lokar and Jupiter plants) by Reliant workforce. This is the 2007 update, which attempts to draw on the Scimitar GT of the 70's the 2001 car had no links at all and in my own eyes a bit unsuccesful

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Old 03-06-2007, 09:23 PM
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Default OK here we go..... Current and upcoming cars (Nath)

TS

My original car company that I started working with in 1988, came under Lokar Group in 1996.. Range is still a bit scattered but I'm working on it

TSEclat
http://img339.imageshack.us/im...4.jpg
http://img409.imageshack.us/im...5.jpg
Now showing its age a bit, the Eclat was launched in 1995, the 2000 update saw a new interior but the sheet metal stayed the same.. Still I dont think looking bad for a car styled by a 12 year old in 1994

TS40
http://img250.imageshack.us/im...4.jpg
New RWD Eclat replacement, details still not finalised... on way soon

TS60
http://img48.imageshack.us/img...8.jpg
Launched in 2001, the TS60 was a stopgap until new range of cars comes along to fill gap between Eclat and Grand, new TS60 soon

TS70
http://img48.imageshack.us/img...5.jpg
Very similar to smaller TS60 the TS70 is to rival 5 series etc, replaced by TS80 soon

TSSovereign
http://img129.imageshack.us/im...0.jpg
http://img337.imageshack.us/im...1.jpg
New Sovereign replaces 11 year old Grand and will make basis for Lokars new Deimos

TS80-X
http://img123.imageshack.us/im...1.jpg
Just a sketch of possible upcoming TS80 based SUV

TSRoadster
http://img185.imageshack.us/im...1.jpg
1998 Roadster, styling based on car from 18 years ago..

http://img47.imageshack.us/img...3.jpg
Sketch for new TS Roadster, probably Lokar Jinty based

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Old 03-06-2007, 10:00 PM
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Default Quick Beetle

Quick Beetle sketch done on holiday last yr, still FWD but less isametric than the current one, and supposed o be a sporty but acessable hatchback/coupe

http://img246.imageshack.us/im...4.jpg

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Old 03-06-2007, 10:13 PM
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wow, that's a huge range...must be tons of work managing them all, lol...montgomery's range, even with avioli and shannon, is only about 1/4 that size at the most, probably more like 1/5...interesting that you have a more budget-oriented mass-market brand and a more upscale mass-market brand; originally montgomery was going to make more upscale cars, like VW, and campbell (a company my friend made up, bought by montgomery group 4 or 5 years ago), which was french, would occupy a spot similar to where skoda is in the VW empire...but i decided it would be too much work, and canned campbell (officially it was losing too much money so montgomery shut it down )
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Wow, that's an impressive lineup, and a LOT of work, Nath....

First off, you have improved ENORMOUSLY. Your proportions seem to be be near perfect to me, except perhaps in the 4X4s which seem a bit low - like wagons. Ish. So props for the improvement in proportions. Spot on. Good perspective sense too.

Now, Linework. Great detail and all, but you suffer from the same as I do. You're not freeing up your hand enough. Your linework should be a quick line that goes from a to B and then slowly fades away, past the point you need it to. Just loosen it up a little, make it a bit more sketchy, less detailed. Its easy to say, but Its hard to do! I know because I suffer from exactly the same problem.

The other thing is, Try to define your most important lines a little bit harder. For example, the outline of the car will always be stronger than all the crease lines and so on. It just helps the design really pick up from the page.

Wheels are an awesome effort, top stuff. They're a tad squiggly, but this is tracing back to freeing up your hand as you draw.

To improve from here, just think about the contrast of a really good sketch, and try to apply what you see. Its all on one level in your drawings, and even in your photoshops. You need things that stand out a little more, something to be the focus of your attention (that is, the viewers).

Top effort mate, and please do keep it up!

Loving some of the details, and I believe you're particularly good with superminis, hatchbacks and other smaller products. Four wheel drives and large sedans still sort of overwhelm you a little as you draw them - nothing a bit of practice can't fix.

Great job, once again, and congrats, because you've honestly come a very, very long way and I see that it comes naturally for you.

Top job, keep it up!

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Old 03-07-2007, 01:59 AM
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Thanks, great comments guys.. I agree that I'm better at proportioning smaller cars, as for SUVs etc, most of them are either quite low or just plain old, something that needs addressing soon. Thanks for the criticisms, something i'll be taking on board (or at least tryin, as most of them I already know).. but as ya know, sometimes takes time to change.
Hopefully be making some improvements over the next few months

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Quote, originally posted by Superfresa »
Now, Linework. Great detail and all, but you suffer from the same as I do. You're not freeing up your hand enough. Your linework should be a quick line that goes from a to B and then slowly fades away, past the point you need it to. Just loosen it up a little, make it a bit more sketchy, less detailed. Its easy to say, but Its hard to do! I know because I suffer from exactly the same problem.

Just wondering, if you look at the Lokar Brio4, is that more like it should be (free flowing lines etc)

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I wish I can draw like you guys. I have to post some of mine up. A lot of my past drawings (Porsche Turin, Hyundai Sonata) drawings were accidentally thrown away.
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