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Old 06-08-2018, 12:10 PM
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Back to the Renegade, I read somewhere that design is the major buying reason, so I guess the subtle facelift did not mess with a winning formula. Personally I like the Renegade, it#s boxy, SUV like shape is a pleasant stand out in a sea of uniform small "raised hatchback" CUVs. The new grille changed the only part I didn't like, the grille that looked like it started to melt onto the bumper. Now it is smaller and ends vertically, without the slightly kink outwards, though the bumper gains those fashionable fake side vents that I despise, so altogether it's a win here loose there for me...
Other boxy cars have not had success in Europe, nor even in North America, compared to Asia.
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Old 06-08-2018, 12:57 PM
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Other boxy cars have not had success...even in North America, compared to Asia.
It's always nice to make statements that ignore facts.
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Old 06-08-2018, 09:44 PM
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It's always nice to make statements that ignore facts.
What boxy car is there in North America that is not in Europe? Maybe I should have replaced Asia by Japan?
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Old 06-21-2018, 08:02 AM
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https://www.carscoops.com/2018/06/20...-photos-video/

huge gallery, incl. tech specs and inetrior shots;



As usual, bigger, crisper screens (with car play and Android Auto), some new switchgear, and, looking at the pics, slightly better materials.

Engine range (for Europe) is all new on the petrol side, with the nowadays inevitable 1.0 3 cyl turbo (120hp) and a 1,3 4cyl. turbo (150hp), whilst the familiar 1.6 and 2.0 Diesels are updated (no data, but we don't need to be magicians to predict it has to to with Eruo 6d temp or whatever the newest norm is called)
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Old 06-21-2018, 11:14 AM
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Cars don't even try to be liked anymore.
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Old 06-21-2018, 12:15 PM
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Cars don't even try to be liked anymore.
Perosnlally I think the Renegade is one of the more likable small CUVs, it#s bixy shape stands out form t he "raised hatchback" crowd, and as one of the very few, the top versions can actually go off road as well...
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Old 06-21-2018, 12:17 PM
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Cars don't even try to be liked anymore.
What does that even mean??
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