CarSpyShots
Quick Member Login:
Forgot password?
Forum Statistics:
Forum Members:
Total Threads:
Total Posts:


There are users
currently browsing forums.
  FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #11  
Old 03-20-2018, 01:40 AM
madskillz madskillz is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 101
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by swizzle View Post
Which was basically the size of a lifted Golf.
From the Euro perspective they are different size vehicles, although the difference isn't big -15cm in total length and one suitcase more of trunk space. But no matter if we classify them as one size or not , T-roc is just a lifted Golf with focus on styling, while Ateca/Karoq is traditional SUV(more practical).

For markets that don't have Seat/Skoda this rebadge can make a lot of sense.
Basically every new SUV is more or less successful and I really can't think of any new one that could be de described as a total sales flop.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 03-20-2018, 04:13 AM
swizzle's Avatar
swizzle swizzle is offline
Raconteur
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Bakersfield
Posts: 24,786
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by madskillz View Post
...I really can't think of any new one that could be de described as a total sales flop.
Atlas...it's selling 1/5 to 1/4 the volume it needed to hit to be significant in the market. It's current sales rate--if annualized--is no better than the Passat did last year and that model is in a sales death spiral. Very similar volume, but the Passat is "dead" and the Atlas is a "stunning success".
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 03-20-2018, 08:31 AM
mick78 mick78 is offline
CSS Oldtimer
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Vienna, Austria
Posts: 8,384
Default

Whilst there are minor size differences, most people will still see a T-Toc, an Ateca (which this is with a different grille) or a SWB Tiguan as a lifted Golf, and when we look beside PR bull****, they are very close altogether (and under the metal identical anyway). They are all more or less same width, same height within a few cm and 4,2 - 4,3 - 4,4m in length, which results in probably one suitcase more in the trunk. Visually, only the T-Roc looks a bit fresher, joining the dual tone paint trend and a less boxy/upright appearance. None of them has a truly upright SUV driving position, all feel still more "lifted car"

Granted, the Tiguan gets no torsion beam rear axle on the base spec and has always 4 cylinders (for now at least), but even then, most dealer offers for the typical mid spec car are very close in price too; Ultimately, choice is mostly up for taste, but to argue with actual technical differences, I don't see them worthy enough to be the ultimate decision maker.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 03-23-2018, 05:32 PM
Ascariss's Avatar
Ascariss Ascariss is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Gdansk, Poland
Posts: 5,559
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SV View Post
Couldn't find a thread for this one. Appears to be what the US is getting instead of the T-Roc, to be revealed in China later this year.

https://www.motor1.com/news/236374/v...es-suv-teaser/

Hard to tell for sure, but I'd bet this is essentially a re-nosed Seat Ateca/Skoda Karoq. The doors appear to be the same on all 3, and the size would be about right since it's about 10in. shorter than the Tiguan Allspace.
Right on the money, seems to be a re-nosed karoq/ateca

https://www.motor1.com/photo/2957295...ul-family-suv/
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 03-26-2018, 07:26 AM
mick78 mick78 is offline
CSS Oldtimer
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Vienna, Austria
Posts: 8,384
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ascariss View Post
Right on the money, seems to be a re-nosed karoq/ateca

https://www.motor1.com/photo/2957295...ul-family-suv/
Indeed. But unlike the Karoq, they didn't even go as far as reskin the basic Ateca, this just has a VW grille. However, given how similar VW; Seat and SKoda's design language is, it doesn't make much of a difference. Looks as VW as it does Seat or Skoda....
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

All times are GMT +1. The time now is 01:59 AM.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Black Falcon Media Group Oy