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Old 01-06-2018, 01:49 AM
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I posted it here b/c it was specific to a single existing model. I normally think of industry news as something that's more general (or about a car company, instead of single model). But if the mods want to re-classify, then they will.
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Old 01-06-2018, 07:01 PM
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One hopes. But I think Ford has had a tendency to release a great product and then to let it languish.

I think Ford might also use the Fusion platform to introduce some autonomous functions.
It's possible that Ford might be looking to consolidate onto the C platform that underpins the Focus; Honda has already done the same with Civic and Accord. Presuming that Ford's C chassis can be stretched in a similar manner for the Fusion, it would conceivably allow Ford to consolidate sedan production at one plant, and free another plant for more CUV output, which is where the market seems to be headed.

Garlic, the Ford autonomous vehicle is being tested with Fusions, but Ford have already stated that the AV will be a bespoke product.
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Old 01-06-2018, 07:52 PM
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It's possible that Ford might be looking to consolidate onto the C platform that underpins the Focus; Honda has already done the same with Civic and Accord. Presuming that Ford's C chassis can be stretched in a similar manner for the Fusion, it would conceivably allow Ford to consolidate sedan production at one plant, and free another plant for more CUV output, which is where the market seems to be headed.

Garlic, the Ford autonomous vehicle is being tested with Fusions, but Ford have already stated that the AV will be a bespoke product.
There would be no reason to stretch the Focus to do a new Fusion.

The Fusion rides on the CD4 platform which also underpins the Mondeo, MKZ, MKX, Edge, Continental, next Explorer, and quite likely next Lincoln "Explorer".

While most people think of the Flex as a total failure, it sells in a predictable, steady amount year after year despite being as old as sin. A new Flex off of CD4 would be cheap to do.

A Ranchero crossover pickup would be another logical idea to explore. Hyundai is going there...

If they can find a way to get an additional 2-300K units off of the CD4 with a higher profit margin while killing the Fusion, Mondeo (most likely), and MKZ, then it's a win.

When the Nautilus was introduced the question was asked why the MKC wasn't renamed when it was made over and the answer was that Ford had specific plans for the MKC's future.

If the MKC, Ford Escape, and Kuga go to a version of CD4--a very logical move--all falls into place. With the Focus exiled to China, the Global C platform isn't the priority it once was for the NA market.
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Old 01-07-2018, 01:53 PM
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CD4 will not be under the next gen Explorer, that will be CD6. Aviator and Continental will also go to CD6. I think the plans for Edge/Nautilus and MKZ are in flux. Escape/Kuga are going to be on a stretched C chassis, which will be shared with MKC.
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CD4 will not be under the next gen Explorer, that will be CD6. Aviator and Continental will also go to CD6. I think the plans for Edge/Nautilus and MKZ are in flux. Escape/Kuga are going to be on a stretched C chassis, which will be shared with MKC.
CD6 is an updated CD4 by most reports just as the CD4 was an evolution of a previous platform.
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Old 01-09-2018, 12:41 AM
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CD6 is an updated CD4 by most reports just as the CD4 was an evolution of a previous platform.
Not at all. CD6 is rumored to be capable of FWD/RWD/AWD configurations. It is much more than an updated CD4 (if it actually exists).
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Not at all. CD6 is rumored to be capable of FWD/RWD/AWD configurations. It is much more than an updated CD4 (if it actually exists).
From what I've seen CD6 is FWD/AWD update of CD4 with better battery location integration for EVs and hybrids. If a platform is FWD/AWD it can be RWD by disconnecting the FWD half shafts. LOL
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Old 01-09-2018, 01:00 AM
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Garlic, the Ford autonomous vehicle is being tested with Fusions, but Ford have already stated that the AV will be a bespoke product.
Thanks for the info. I've only seen pics of Ford's autonomous test bed (Fusion) but hadn't been reading any text on the subject.
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Old 01-13-2018, 02:01 AM
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From what I've seen CD6 is FWD/AWD update of CD4 with better battery location integration for EVs and hybrids. If a platform is FWD/AWD it can be RWD by disconnecting the FWD half shafts. LOL
The chassis is rumored to support both transverse and longitudinal engine positions, which in turn would support FWD or RWD. Get it? LOL

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Old 01-13-2018, 04:16 AM
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The chassis is rumored to support both transverse and longitudinal engine positions, which in turn would support FWD or RWD. Get it? LOL
"CD6" has also been rumored for a LONG, LONG time and it has always been wild speculation mostly on Ford fanboy sites.

But with EUCD becoming CD4 with an overhaul, Ford clearly is evolutionary (like Toyota and Honda) rather than revolutionary.

And with so many cars built on CD4, the next logical step is to find a better way to incorporate batteries into CD4 which could be a "CD6".

In fact, more than a few sites are reporting that the new Explorer is on a revised version of CD4 that they are calling CD6.
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