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Old 07-06-2016, 05:56 PM
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Default 2019 Hyundai Veloster

Not much to see, but I think it's cool Hyundai is giving the funky Veloster a second generation:

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...ster-spy-shots
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Old 07-06-2016, 09:33 PM
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Essentially they need to make the styling less polarizing and more captivating. They need to ditch the goofy 1/2 door nonsense and make it as a 3 or 5 door hatchback aimed squarely at the GTI/Mini Cooper S/Fiesta FocusST crowd.

They can let the Elantra hatchback be their "Focus" and the Veloster be their "Scirocco" of sorts.

On a side note, the current Scirocco has ZERO Scirocconess (sic) to it, but should be marketed instead as a GTI to separate the GTI from the pedestrian Golf.

A GTI can easily cost $10K more than a Golf, so why should the GTI share the look of the base Golf?
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Old 07-07-2016, 10:38 AM
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Essentially they need to make the styling less polarizing and more captivating.
Agreed. The Veloster is one of Hyundai's least convincing design efforts.

I don't see VW messing with the highly successful GTI formula any time soon.

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Old 07-07-2016, 12:39 PM
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Essentially they need to make the styling less polarizing and more captivating. They need to ditch the goofy 1/2 door nonsense and make it as a 3 or 5 door hatchback aimed squarely at the GTI/Mini Cooper S/Fiesta FocusST crowd.

They can let the Elantra hatchback be their "Focus" and the Veloster be their "Scirocco" of sorts.

On a side note, the current Scirocco has ZERO Scirocconess (sic) to it, but should be marketed instead as a GTI to separate the GTI from the pedestrian Golf.

A GTI can easily cost $10K more than a Golf, so why should the GTI share the look of the base Golf?
3 Door hatches are dead, they are niche products. No more Clio, Megane with 3 doors, next Golf and A3 will only be available as 5 door, no Scirocco successor due to VW downsizing, no more 3 door 1 Series successor, only 5 door. No more 3 door Ford Ka, etc.....
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Old 07-07-2016, 01:05 PM
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3 Door hatches are dead, they are niche products. No more Clio, Megane with 3 doors, next Golf and A3 will only be available as 5 door, no Scirocco successor due to VW downsizing, no more 3 door 1 Series successor, only 5 door. No more 3 door Ford Ka, etc.....
Agreed, very few 3 door hatchbacks available new anymore, mostly Superminis or below, and no new car seems to arrive in 3 door fashion anymore. Making the Veloster anything els than a proper coupe shape can only result in failure IMO (unless tehy pull some Cross Coupe thingy, but the prototype clearly shows no raised ride height or stuff)....
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Old 07-08-2016, 01:04 PM
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I don't mind the 2.5 doors of the Veloster. And I think they should keep it. A friend has one - and they're surprisingly practical. LOTS of room b/c of the hatch, and the .5 door is nice to help people get in and out of. As is par of the Hyundai course - the car can be optioned out and not break the bank - while delivering decent fuel economy and ok performance - in a car that is unique/funky looking. There is a market for a car like this; and at 25K-35K sold per year that point is proved - and not bad for a brand new concept / brand new name (it sold more than Beetle many years of recent).

This said - the styling was polarizing (I happen to like it); tone that down / make it a bit more aggressive without the weird look. Position it more as a tuner (those becoming disenfranchised by Honda Civic), improve the handling / ride - and sales will easily increase by 1/3.
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Old 07-08-2016, 01:09 PM
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Figuring out how to make it their Mini Cooper S is the trick.

It has a great name and the right footprint. If anything I'd either ditch the half door or put one on each side.
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I don't mind the 2.5 doors of the Veloster. And I think they should keep it. A friend has one - and they're surprisingly practical. LOTS of room b/c of the hatch, and the .5 door is nice to help people get in and out of.
...so why not have four fully functioning doors? Would that make it more practical?
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Old 07-08-2016, 02:32 PM
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Because Americans don't like hatch backs. This avoids that...and it's as practical as it needs to be for what it is.
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Because Americans don't like hatch backs. This avoids that...and it's as practical as it needs to be for what it is.
whether it's got three doors or four, it's still a hatch.
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