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Old 02-21-2018, 03:13 PM
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How? The regular Civic isn't even a hatchback, and has one of the lowest seating positions in it's segment IMO; it looks long, wide and low on the outside as well. By any definition it is a sedan and certainly not a pretend SUV...
Its sold as a sedan and a hatchback...
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Old 02-22-2018, 03:13 AM
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Wish the Type R was a bit toned down.
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Old 03-12-2018, 09:32 PM
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https://www.autoblog.com/2018/03/12/...rd-slow-sales/

Interesting article on Autoblog re: Accord sales. Volume is down, inventory is building.

Some will argue that this is b/c of consumer tastes shift towards CUV's - sure, maybe that's part of it. But Camry sales (showing growth in this market) defies that. My money is that it's because the new Accords face is just that ugly. The rest of the car looks amazing...rear, side, interior...but that face. WOW awful!

I suspect Honda is going to do a really quick update to correct the ills of that hideous face.

Also - Honda, while at it -if you could also fix the face of the Civic -watch your sales grow significantly on that product as well! I just don't get the chrome lip that protrudes further out than the headlights...
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Old 03-12-2018, 09:37 PM
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The real reason is that Honda isn't offering any real competitive lease deals for the new Accord right now.
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Old 03-13-2018, 12:11 AM
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https://www.autoblog.com/2018/03/12/...rd-slow-sales/

Interesting article on Autoblog re: Accord sales. Volume is down, inventory is building.

Some will argue that this is b/c of consumer tastes shift towards CUV's - sure, maybe that's part of it. But Camry sales (showing growth in this market) defies that. My money is that it's because the new Accords face is just that ugly. The rest of the car looks amazing...rear, side, interior...but that face. WOW awful!

I suspect Honda is going to do a really quick update to correct the ills of that hideous face.

Also - Honda, while at it -if you could also fix the face of the Civic -watch your sales grow significantly on that product as well! I just don't get the chrome lip that protrudes further out than the headlights...
The new Camry's face is 10x worse than the Accord's. There is no way it's noticeably affecting sales. The whole car is extremely appealing everywhere else (I also don't mind the face).

Civic sales are through the roof and handily beating the Corolla. They are everywhere.

It's amazing how much internet car culture overstates design as a defining factor of car sales. If the majority of people bought cars based largely on looks, we would be flooded with Mazdas. We're not. Consumers care about the brand, features, and the price tag. If I had a nickel for every time a friend or family member told me all cars look the same today, I'd be rich.
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Old 03-13-2018, 09:48 AM
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Would not be surprised if Toyota is counting fleet sales for the new Camry, as there seems to be a lot of them used as a rental cars.
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Old 03-13-2018, 09:49 AM
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That is likely being done by design as Honda does not want to lose money on those deals anymore. I guess they might have Mr. Opportunity type sale again where the lease deal is really good. That is what moves the plant though. :/
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Old 03-28-2018, 10:22 AM
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Last year, cars outsold trucks for the first time in California. It proves how popular CUV's have become. Honda is focusing on core models atm, which is probably going to help, but not good for the enthusiast who wants a Honda sports car. Perhaps one that is a BEV, HEV, PHEV, or Fuel cell. Would definitely appease the CARB, but it might be fun to see a turbo hybrid sports car.
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Old 03-28-2018, 12:06 PM
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Would not be surprised if Toyota is counting fleet sales for the new Camry, as there seems to be a lot of them used as a rental cars.
The same way German brands count fleet sales.
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