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Old 05-18-2017, 02:41 AM
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There's a huge difference between a new model having some minor, and expected, reliability issues and cars leaving the production line with very large and very noticeable cracks in a core element of the car's structure.
That screw up was massive; I guarantee you the QC person who let that pass is no longer with the company. 100% inexcusable.

it was just one MASSIVE issue ... it's not a systemic thing. And I'm confident Tesla dealt with it in a satisfactory manner (which I'm guessing was simply replacing the vehicle).
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Old 05-18-2017, 03:16 AM
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Huh... sounds like you're making a generalization on the brand here... how was I putting words in your mouth?
just because they have quality issues does not mean they're terrible. i never said they were. so there are the words in the mouth. #girlbye
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Old 05-18-2017, 03:27 AM
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Fair enough.
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Old 05-18-2017, 03:12 PM
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then more power to Tesla because they've created a customer base that doesn't seem to care given the lineup for Model 3's and they're leading the ranks in buyer satisfaction surveys.
I mean, the Pontiac Aztek had the highest owner satisfaction of any vehicle every year it was on-sale.

Which isn't to say that Tesla is making Azteks. But right now, Tesla is reaching a very small, very wealthy, and very loyal audience. The average Tesla owner has two or three other vehicles--very few only own a Model S or Model X. That's typical of a $100,000 vehicle. But the owners of Model 3s will be people who rely on their vehicle every day, and if the car's quality isn't up to snuff of the vehicles they're coming out of, they'll be pissed.
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Old 05-18-2017, 04:48 PM
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Agreed. If the Model 3 QC is poor - there will be hell to pay.

Re: Aztek... obvisouyl a hideous car. However from a functional / practical stand point - it's pretty good. I bet that's why the ratings were high.
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Old 05-19-2017, 06:46 PM
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The average Tesla owner has two or three other vehicles--very few only own a Model S or Model X. That's typical of a $100,000 vehicle. But the owners of Model 3s will be people who rely on their vehicle every day, and if the car's quality isn't up to snuff of the vehicles they're coming out of, they'll be pissed.
two dubious remarks. the second car in the household is likely their spouse's car and third is not likely a daily driver replacement but a sports car or recreational car of some sort. I'm not sure who's married here but taking your wife's car to work and making her take public transit of some sort is likely to end in a temporary relocation to the couch. and taking your Ferrari on the FDR drive...good luck with the pot holes. no one will tolerate that failure just because they're wealthy. i'd say quite the opposite. when has a wealthy person ever been considered more forgiving and loyal to a product than the techy millennials and gen x/y'ers who are going to be lining up for the Model 3? Think iPhone loyalty... as long as it's cool and green and has a big screen, they'll stick with it. remember, the bulk of issues are cosmetic in nature (a pillar and one-off major assembly issues aside), not vehicle reliability.
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