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Old 11-20-2018, 09:45 PM
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Don't be lazy. Google Chevy Spark Activ.
Sorry, wrong quote, I was referring to the "Bronco Active" name.


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#BS on the door. I owned a real Jeep Cherokee and the tire was mounted inside the vehicle with no untoward effect.
mick78 pretty much said what I was going to say about this topic.
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Old 11-20-2018, 10:25 PM
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Apparently, I'm in the minority here - but I think this thing looks silly. Maybe real life will be better?

Regardless - what do I know...in a world where Jeep Renegade sells...I guess there is room. I just hope the 'real' Bronco does the concept justice.
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Old 11-25-2018, 02:10 AM
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Apparently, I'm in the minority here - but I think this thing looks silly. Maybe real life will be better?

Regardless - what do I know...in a world where Jeep Renegade sells...I guess there is room.
Not sure if you saw this photo comparison I posted a few pages back.
There's room for better looking vehicles like the baby Bronco. lol
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The Renegade just looks odd with its stubby nose-heavy proportions.

Even though the baby Bronco is based on the FWD-platform of the all-new Focus, Ford managed to keep the front overhang short (or look short).

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Old 11-25-2018, 02:24 AM
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What makes the Retrograde look so ugly is the DLO line and the dumb, mock wrap around rear glass.
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Old 11-26-2018, 09:24 AM
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What I find interesting though is that the Renegade sells well (in Europe especially, but also in other markets), and most customers say the design was a major point hwy they chose it. I think that is - like say the Fiat 500 - one of those cars, that real car people don't get (as here on the forum), but average customers like.

I'd say - from just sitting in it - that it certainly has more character than most of the competition, as - unlike moist raised hatchbacks - also feels like a proper SUV, given it's height and boxy body, which also makes it a lot airier inside than those tight small "driver oriented" raised hatchbacks like a Hyundai Kona, Mercedes GLA or even a T-Roc.
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What I find interesting though is that the Renegade sells well (in Europe especially, but also in other markets)
Interesting that you mentioned that. it looks like the Renegade isn't selling as well anymore in Europe.

September 2018 European sales of the Jeep Renegade is 4,462 units.
For comparison:
Nissan Juke = 9,067 units
Ford EcoSport = 11,259 units
Renault Captur =14,663 units (sales leader)

The Juke, Ecosport and a few other subcompact SUVs outsell it.

*couldn't find the October sales figures.

The baby Bronco has cleaner lines that will age better than the Renegade's odd lines.
Aside from that nose heavy design of the Renegade (tall hood, long front overhang), it has an equally weird DLO and beltline as pointed out by swizzle.

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It looks too much like a conventional hatchback to look the part of a crossover. It's too organic/soft to be a standout. Ford appears ready to deal some styling misses real soon. The Explorer looks loo much like the one it replaces and preserves all of that car's oddness. The Escape is simmered in dull sauce with no seasoning to keep it dull. This is no better than the dimwitted Focus Active that fortunately is NOT being foisted on the NA market.
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Okay, it seems this small, Fiesta based CUV really won't be a baby Bronco after all, but really their proper smaller than Escape CUV (and what will likely go against a Qashqai, Tr-Roc etc., at the same time also making it clear that the nearly undisguised car in the last days is indeed teh Escape/Kuga)
This appears to be Focus-based, not Fiesta-based. The Fiesta has four-lug wheels, this has five-lug.

Also, I think people are conflating this with the Baby Bronco. Given that we've seen leaks of the Baby Bronco, I think they're two distinct vehicles.
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This appears to be Focus-based, not Fiesta-based. The Fiesta has four-lug wheels, this has five-lug.

Also, I think people are conflating this with the Baby Bronco. Given that we've seen leaks of the Baby Bronco, I think they're two distinct vehicles.
I do realize that, when the first mules appeared, we could though not really know what this is - it is now obvious that this is a smaller than Kuga CUV, and not even necessarily the EcoSPort replacement; I'm not 1005 sure that a 5 lug nut wheel automatically rules out a Fiesta connection (after all, the first mules on the first page combined a Fiesta body with 5 lug nuts), but it can well be that after all, despite the smaller looking Kuga, and the FOcus Active, this is still a Focus derived CUV. But certainly, this will be an important model, competing in a super crowded and massively growing segment.

But mods can probably delete the BAby Bronco form the title, indeed....
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I think this looks slightly sharper than the upcoming Escape/Kuga. Also looks a bit bigger than the outgoing car (not a bad thing). And the headlights on this thing look positively HUGE (the ones on the Escape didn't bother me).
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