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Old 03-26-2018, 09:23 AM
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Default 2021 Ford "Baby Bronco"/EcoSport

Sorry for the vague title, but so far it is really hard to tell what this will be, given the stage of the mule, other that it is a Fiesta based cross over.

https://www.carscoops.com/2018/03/ja...her-small-suv/





Whilst the article is heavily speculating on the Baby Bronco, I'm not sure - after all, all we know certainly is that an actual Bronco ios on the way, a possible Baby Bronco has still speculation status; However the EcoPsort is IMO due for replacement in the next 2 years, yes I know it is still fairly new for the US; but altogether a second facelift of a model released in 2012, and a bit too small by nowadays class standards, and given how this is a Fiesta with a longer tail (and much bigger wheels), the proportions would also make a lot of sense as EcoSport; Well, we will know after some time, but definitely (and hardly surprising given the market) Ford is working on a new small CUV.....
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Old 03-26-2018, 01:52 PM
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Ford's statements have been a bit perplexing due to their contradictory nature. Supposedly there is a baby Bronco coming that is fully off-road capable and a new B-class crossover. Does that mean an SWB Bronco or a much smaller Bronco? If it's a B-class Bronco, do they mean off-road capable like a Jeep Renegade (i.e. "I'm on dirt so I'm off-road!")? Then there has been talk of another B-class crossover. Is it in addition to the Ecosport (i.e. really a new Ecosport to be sold along side the current Ecosport)? Or is it a separate vehicle and a new Ecosport is coming? Time will tell. The Ecosport is good enough for now but hardly good enough for much longer.
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Old 03-27-2018, 08:05 AM
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Ford's statements have been a bit perplexing due to their contradictory nature...
I really hope Fomoco finds a twelve-step that works for them
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also really doubt that'll happen as long as Mr.Hatchett is there
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I really hope Fomoco finds a twelve-step that works for them
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also really doubt that'll happen as long as Mr.Hatchett is there
You don't think a former office furniture salesman has vision to run Ford? Bah...that's crazy talk!
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Old 03-27-2018, 06:31 PM
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The Ecosport we are just getting here in the US has been out for many years elsewhere in the ROW. Logically, therefore its going to have a very short lifespan in the US in its current generation.
However to call its replacement a baby bronco is silly journalism.
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Old 03-27-2018, 09:56 PM
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The Ecosport we are just getting here in the US has been out for many years elsewhere in the ROW. Logically, therefore its going to have a very short lifespan in the US in its current generation.
However to call its replacement a baby bronco is silly journalism.
The "baby" Bronco tag is NOT silly journalism given that Ford has said that a another, fully off-road capable vehicle is coming that will be smaller than the Bronco. Ford has even referred to this future product as a "baby" Bronco. And YES the Ecosport is old. .
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Old 03-27-2018, 11:02 PM
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You don't think a former office furniture salesman has vision to run Ford? Bah...that's crazy talk!
And yet Mr. Hackett seems to have announced so much more in his brief time at the head of the company than Mr. Fields did during his entire duration after Mulally left.....
Yes - "plenty" is a couple of years off, but it seems like Ford was sleeping at the wheel prior to Mr. Hackett's appointment to run the company.
Furniture salesman or not, things seem to be moving a just a bit of a quicker pace lately....

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Old 03-28-2018, 11:48 AM
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The "baby" Bronco tag is NOT silly journalism given that Ford has said that a another, fully off-road capable vehicle is coming that will be smaller than the Bronco. Ford has even referred to this future product as a "baby" Bronco. And YES the Ecosport is old. .
Can't be off-road capable if it is FWD(-based).
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Old 03-28-2018, 12:42 PM
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Can't be off-road capable if it is FWD(-based).
Whilst I won't argue that this is likely a soft roader, there are a few FWD based/derived cars that are rather capable off road (e.g. most Subarus, esp. the XV/Crosstrek with the compact body/big wheels; Landrover Freelander 2 was also rather capable off road (personal experience), and, lower ride height and or longer overhangs taken into account, the realted Evoque and disco Sport as long as you avoid overly bling wheels).

Ultimately off road ability is usually way more down to approach/departure angles, ride height, tires and, when loosing grip becauise running out of those factors, the tech behind the differentials (open/electric torque vectoring/proper locking ones) than which wheels are driven in "WD configuration/on road. All that can in theory be added to FWD derived AWD cars, even if it rarely is.
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Old 03-28-2018, 03:36 PM
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Can't be off-road capable if it is FWD(-based).
Wrong! It most decidedly can as several off-roaders have proven.
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