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Old 04-05-2018, 03:01 AM
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consumption on that 1.5T isnt as great as some other offerings, what a bloody tiny engine for such a car
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consumption on that 1.5T isnt as great as some other offerings, what a bloody tiny engine for such a car
Good point, mileage is usually an important criteria for the regular family sedan buyer.
Looking up fuel consumption comparisons, the new Accord seems to be above average if not class leading. As such it probably doesn't make it a particularly big factor for lack of sales.

https://fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find.do?...39294&id=38663
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what a bloody tiny engine for such a car
In Europe, you can get the Ford Mondeo/Fusion with the 1.0 EcoBoost 3 cylinder with a whopping 125hp. Compared to that, the Accord is a big block, with 50% more displacement and 33% more cylinders ;)

Mind you though, a base BMW 3 series in Europe also has exactly as many cylinders as it's name suggests, the 1.5 3 banger form a Mini One. Thank you unrealistic government cycle testing.
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Old 04-05-2018, 11:39 AM
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Compared to other similar sized sedans in the states, the accord has the tiny one. And I do believe that the Camry with it's largeblock 2.5L NA 4 gets better consumption, others too most likely. And it does, based on ElementW's link; a larger engine expending less effort to accomplish the same task.

Nevertheless, it might be a factor in the Accord's less brisk sales especially coupled to higher prices and less incentives.

Camry sales will plunge at some point, maybe coinciding with the new, more robust Rav-4.

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And I do believe that the Camry with it's largeblock 2.5L NA 4 gets better consumption, others too most likely.
As you say, larger, less stressed engines usually have better real life consumption than those overly boosted small capacity "dyno testing wonders". At the absolute low end, they have a higher minimum consumption (usually this is the window where - at least in Europe - these cycle tests are done), but the more you push the engine, the higher the increase at smaller ones is, and they quickly surpass a larger (and/or NA) one; And real life driving is usually a lot more on the "heavy accelerator" side....
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As you say, larger, less stressed engines usually have better real life consumption than those overly boosted small capacity "dyno testing wonders".....
That's definitely true of the 2.5 Fusion vs the 1.5 Ecoboost.
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