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Old 06-23-2019, 01:10 PM
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Maybe not.

What if...Nissan is planning to get away from Renault and THEN FCA-Nissan merge. THAT is the win NOT FCA-Renault.
Latest twist on what happened behind the scenes: the Japanese government had misgivings: http://www.thedetroitbureau.com/2019...lks-breakdown/
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Old 06-23-2019, 02:30 PM
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That's just people trying to spin the facts that President Macron was acting like an entitled diva--probably got it from his aged wife--and was making all sorts of idiotic demands. All Nissan did was tap the tower of cards that dimwits in France were building.
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That's just people trying to spin the facts that President Macron was acting like an entitled diva--probably got it from his aged wife--and was making all sorts of idiotic demands. All Nissan did was tap the tower of cards that dimwits in France were building.
Yes, that must be it.
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Old 06-27-2019, 01:39 PM
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Nissan's strength is sedans not SUVs.

The Market wants SUVs

FCA is daydream plenty strong with SUVs.

Nissan would add nothing to FCA of any value.
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Old 06-27-2019, 10:18 PM
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Oh Puhleaze! The synergies with Nissan are considerable.
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/michael...may-be-ending/

Alfa seems to be dead (again).

A shame, should have sold it to VW when they were offered it.
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Old 08-02-2019, 06:31 PM
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No loss. The build quality was sketchy. The reliability was terrible. The styling of the Giulia was dated and derivative.

Maserati should have been aimed at BMW/Mercedes and priced 10% BELOW them to buy market.

Alfa-Romeo should have been a turbo AWD brand aimed at Subaru and filling the hole left by the Mitsubishi EVO.

Alfas should have had mainstream Dodge counterparts with different styling.

Marchionne should have cut a WIDE deal with Mazda for platforms and engines.

But we got his moronic idiocy. So now, not only is Alfa dead, Maserati, Dodge, and Chrysler are starved for product.

Manley? No leadership there.

FCA is spegacked.
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Old 08-02-2019, 08:46 PM
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Nissan would be a much better partner than Renault. Start with its world wide appeal. Jeep is the only brand that has anything close to world wide appeal.
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Nissan would be a much better partner than Renault. Start with its world wide appeal. Jeep is the only brand that has anything close to world wide appeal.
While I agree, I think Nissan has such class-trailing designs with durability/reliability issues that they may not be capable.

Although I don't think it would happen, Toyota buying FCA has win/win all over it.

I do think the Chinese are on the horizon.
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Although I don't think it would happen, Toyota buying FCA has win/win all over it.
It would definitely make sense for Toyota to widen their portfolio, after all they are number 2 in the world (by just a small margin) with basically 2 brands, and some domestic market Daihatsus; FCA could be an option, nit I wouldn't be entirely surprised if trouble ridden BMW (also about to cancel a lot of their models) would be a possible partner, given how they already cooperate; Anyway, something international definitely makes more sense for them than buying another Japanese brand like Subaru or Mazda...
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