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Old 07-17-2018, 04:51 PM
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This X7 is not a true X7 as in 5 Series vs 7 Series. It will have no V12, it is an X5 XL just as the GLS is a GLE XL. Despite the promises of both Mercedes and BMW that the GLS and X7 will be true flagship SUV versions of S Class and 7 Series, it will not happen. But they will have some "luxury" in terms of layout (individual rear seats, separated cargo area not sure) and some trim/materials. But given the ignorance of most customers, compared to 10 years ago, it will be enough to sway S Class/7 Series buyers, that do not intentionally want to fly under the radar, towards the GLS/X7. Audi Q7 will definitely take a it, because the new one looks smaller and worse than the first generation that IMO was the best looking Audi with the first gen R8.

I wonder how Range Rover sells, when they are even less reliable than Fiat.
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Old 07-17-2018, 06:49 PM
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This X7 is not a true X7 as in 5 Series vs 7 Series. It will have no V12, it is an X5 XL just as the GLS is a GLE XL. Despite the promises of both Mercedes and BMW that the GLS and X7 will be true flagship SUV versions of S Class and 7 Series, it will not happen. But they will have some "luxury" in terms of layout (individual rear seats, separated cargo area not sure) and some trim/materials. But given the ignorance of most customers, compared to 10 years ago, it will be enough to sway S Class/7 Series buyers, that do not intentionally want to fly under the radar, towards the GLS/X7. Audi Q7 will definitely take a it, because the new one looks smaller and worse than the first generation that IMO was the best looking Audi with the first gen R8.

I wonder how Range Rover sells, when they are even less reliable than Fiat.
1. The Rolls Royce X7 has a V12. Make no mistake, the Cunanan is NOT a bespoke platform. It's an X7 with BS and hype that it's bespoke.

2. That V12 is a BMW unit.

3. But even if the V12 won't fit, a twin-turbo V8 is much more in vogue these days anyway.
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Old 07-17-2018, 07:35 PM
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This X7 is not a true X7 as in 5 Series vs 7 Series. It will have no V12, it is an X5 XL just as the GLS is a GLE XL.
Those in the market for these vehicles couldn't care less about either of these points.
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Old 07-17-2018, 08:26 PM
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Those in the market for these vehicles couldn't care less about either of these points.
Indeed if played right this is a goldmine.

I don't know know how big this big boy is but if it is really big, then grow the X5 and the X3.
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Old 07-18-2018, 07:08 AM
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Agreed. I remember the major auto magazines etc. predicting an X7 around 2000-2003, with full on renders/sketches/etc. Crazy that it's been this long for it to finally come to fruition.
Especially since the GLS (or back then GL) has been around since 2006 (not even mentioning the Range Rover or the slightly different audience targeting large land Cruisers or Cadillac Escallade).

However, by the dull looks outside and teh standard BMW interior inside (no full on luxury), I guess it will be more of a "BMW GLS" than a proper "sitting above 7 series " vehicle, and if only because it would then interfere with their Rolls Royce line up, that certainly has even more impressive margins..

That said, I'm pretty sure a V12 would fit, this, the 7 series, small Rolls and even 5 series/X5 share one architecture, so it should be possible; Question is of course if it would make sense, for the reasons as above in addition to fleet CO2 etc.....
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YAWNNNNNN. But it’ll sell in droves, I’m sure.

https://www.carscoops.com/2018/08/20...ible-la-debut/
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A 12 cylinder variant (anyone remember the X5 Lemans?) would be great.
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A 12 cylinder variant (anyone remember the X5 Lemans?) would be great.
for whom; no one’s buying that...
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A 12 cylinder variant (anyone remember the X5 Lemans?) would be great.
Brilliant idea.

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for whom; no one’s buying that...
This is the "replacement" of the 7 Series as the top BMW luxury vehicle and as such a V12 is an obvious move.
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Brilliant idea.



This is the "replacement" of the 7 Series as the top BMW luxury vehicle and as such a V12 is an obvious move.
they could easily get away with an X7 ///M as the range topper which would have a TT V8. V12 in this segment isn't necessary, especially without any of the heritage of say an S600. Can't find sales data by engine but i have seen exactly 1 current gen V12 7 series and maybe a handful of S600s. I probably see 10x that many S63's and M sport 7 series. clearly not a scientific approach but if anyone's noticed otherwise I'm sure you'll chime in...

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