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Old 07-28-2016, 06:25 PM
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Fiat Chrysler ending car production in the US

The company may be called Fiat Chrysler Automobiles, but by early next year, it won't be making cars in the U.S.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/compa...4gR?li=BBnbfcN
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Old 07-28-2016, 07:22 PM
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That is an EXTREMELY misleading post. But par for the course with you.

All FCA is doing is ceasing production of sedans--the 200 and the Dart--in the U.S. We all knew that was coming months ago. So Fiat Chrysler Automobiles will still be making automobiles in the U.S.
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Old 07-28-2016, 07:27 PM
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That is an EXTREMELY misleading post. But par for the course with you.

I am not saying I trust MSN either, but could you please point out some of the misleading points in the article for us.
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Old 07-28-2016, 08:02 PM
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I am not saying I trust MSN either, but could you please point out some of the misleading points in the article for us.
.... I posted them in my initial response. "Car" is a generality and can be applied to all vehicles--SUVs, trucks, sedans, etc. Therefore, reading your post, one could be led to believe that FCA is no longer going to be producing any vehicles in the U.S.
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Old 07-28-2016, 08:43 PM
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.... I posted them in my initial response. "Car" is a generality and can be applied to all vehicles--SUVs, trucks, sedans, etc. Therefore, reading your post, one could be led to believe that FCA is no longer going to be producing any vehicles in the U.S.
I did not come to the conclusion you did. I knew from the article that FCA plans to still be producing vehicles in the United States.
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Old 07-28-2016, 11:56 PM
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I really think a sale is in the works.

This would be a great way for VW to get volume and income from Jeep and Ram to bounce back from dieselgate while pretending to be the protector of American jobs. They can put Skoda into Chrysler dealers and badge engineer the Pacifica to conform.

They can kill Dodge and Chrysler once the outdated RWD cars have run their course.

Getting control of Fiat, Alfa Romeo, and Maserati gives them niche options for Europe...SEAT and Lancia would be dead. Alfa and Maserati together would give VW a premium RWD brand something that the stubbornly FWD biased Audi cannot do.

VW certainly has the platforms--with the exception of what Ram would need--to sustain them.

While I speculated earlier that GAC could be sniffing around--they were in fact--merging VW and FCA could be so utterly crazy that it could work.
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Old 07-29-2016, 01:08 AM
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Semantics aside the end of Dart and 200 is the end of an era. Chrysler has tried so hard in the compact/mid-size segment from Valiant and Lancer through Aries and Reliant to Stratus and Sebring. A lot of those cars were very good in my opinion and I have called two of them my own. I don't think Chrysler's plans to get replacements for these cars under contract will pan out as they have been claiming. I think they're going to gradually whittle down the lineup until the whole operation is sold and I predict it will be a slow, painful process.
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Old 07-29-2016, 07:24 AM
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Semantics aside the end of Dart and 200 is the end of an era.
To a certain degree think it#s the beginning of an era general - at least when i look around in Europe, one can tell the D-segment family sedan is already as shrinking segment - the "big players" are big thanks to fleet sales only (Passats have some 95% fleet sales in many markets, Mondeos and Insignias not much below). Private customers are buying either Cross over/SUVs or some premium mid sized cars (and even standard Audi/BMW/Merc cars are starting to feel their CUV/CUV coupe counter parts). Honda already pulled teh Acciord from the EU markets, Toyota probably will pull the Avensis, Hyundai might pull the i40 sedan.

And when you honestly look around, the still hugely selling C-segment is clearly showing comparable symptoms as well. Huge fleet sales, premium, CUVs shoved to the market.

And whilst the US market is indeed quite different, these trends are visible there as well. Yes, d-segment sedans wiull never be as dead as maybe elsewhere, but SUVs/CUVs are clearly the thing people care more and more about (it started in the US anyway....)

FCA might have had questionable engine combos, bad marketing and in good old tradition of Fiats also suffer the "here i the new model, now there won't be any MY updates or upgrades for 5-10 years", but also FCA is reacting to the trend above. Produce what they sell most, and what earns the money...
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Old 08-04-2016, 11:55 AM
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With the RAV4 expected to become toyota's best seller (with 2 engine options including the hybrid..) I wonder if the camry will ever be re imagined as a crossover (smaller than highlander)
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Shocker: The Alfieri has been delayed yet again, this time to 2020.

http://www.motor1.com/news/105711/ma...-delayed-2020/
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