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Old 02-28-2013, 03:14 AM
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Fusion. If it's a 2.5L Passat, I would run away screaming. The 1.6T or even the 2.0T Fusion would be way better.
The 2.5 Passat is not as good as the 1.6 Ecoboost and I drove them back to back today with kind permission of both dealers. Heck the 2.5 Fusion is smoother than the 2.5 Passat.

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:cry:What not the Honda Accord?
I will NEVER darken Honda's door again. My Element was 3rd world quality. The customer servive was abysmal. I utterly despise the new Accord.

I hope that wasn't unclear.

My daughter thumbed the Passat down BIG TIME. She prefers the Escape. So we will be back at Ford comparing Fusion VS Escape.

Again thank all of you for weighing in.
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Old 02-28-2013, 04:36 AM
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what a joke
I'm actually purchasing (leasing) within the next week, thank you!
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Old 02-28-2013, 04:42 AM
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Come on, we all know that in the end it will be a Hyundai. ;)
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Come on, we all know that in the end it will be a Hyundai. ;)
Yes, why no Sonata?

Well, back on Passat or Fusion IMO none of them would be a bad choice, it does apear to me that at least in Europe, VWs have greatly improved in terms of "little nigles", that were usually annoying, and apart from the super small 1.2 and 1.4 TSI engines (which, apart from the 1.4 in the Jetta Hybrid) aren't sold anyway, the drivetrains also seem rather improved compared to say 10 years ago (generally, the Golf V/VI platform is regarded as a huge improvement in terms of reliability and durability). So, if you chose a Passat, those annoying little things shouldn't be that many, I guess, especially given the general platform and engines have been around for quite a while, and many things have been ironed out (I own a Eos, trouble free (that model!), and two later company Golf Mk. VI also working well without problems, though both were just on a short term lease, so no long time experience).

Being related to the current outgoing Euro Mondeo a lot, the Fusion should also be trouble free, ususally only things that can be a problem are the smaller 1,6 Diesels (again, no problem in the US ;-)), and some early corrosion on exhausts and some minor parts (but probably after 4,5 years), again nothing that should trouble someone going for a 2-3 years lease. We do have a lot of Mondeos as company car where I work, and no one seems to have serious trouble, even though some have pilled up 300k and more km in a 3-4 years run. Usually only complain is that the interior is not "as nice as in a VW". A few scratchier surfaces, and the usual brittle Ford door trim, but again, nothing you wouldn't already see when you buy it.
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Old 02-28-2013, 03:16 PM
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You are the first person I know to even admit to buying an Element.
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Yes, why no Sonata?...
Sonata was ruled out. The Fusion is simply just a tick better at every price point. Ford also has FAR BETTER lease offers. The local Hyundai dealer changed hands from management that takes care of customers to one that is talking deal before the test drive. They also have a $1K market adjustment on all Hyundais and think people should agree to their asking price.

By contrast, the Ford dealer here is hard to beat and was into excellent customer relations even before such things came into vogue.

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You are the first person I know to even admit to buying an Element.
Baby car which was needed at the time.
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and think people should agree to their asking price.
just your kind of people, it surprises me that you dont 112000% agree with this mentality
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Again, thank you all. I went with the Fusion for two years. I am very thrilled with it. My sincere appreciation to those who gave constructive guidance.;)
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