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Old 06-08-2018, 12:07 PM
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That would make it actually sell.
I would agree. But why do not carmakers agree?
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Old 06-08-2018, 12:58 PM
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I would agree. But why do not carmakers agree?
Why should other car makers have to agree? That's an illogical statement.
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Old 06-08-2018, 09:41 PM
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Why should other car makers have to agree? That's an illogical statement.
What is illogical? You -- and not only you -- ask for a more powerful MX-5 (or even 86/BRZ), but they do not make any. It means they disagree with your assessment, that a more power is needed and they will sell. They indicate that more power is not needed and/or they will not sell.
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Old 06-08-2018, 09:47 PM
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What is illogical? You -- and not only you -- ask for a more powerful MX-5 (or even 86/BRZ), but they do not make any. It means they disagree with your assessment, that a more power is needed and they will sell. They indicate that more power is not needed and/or they will not sell.
AGAIN....tell me why OTHER CAR MAKERS should have an opinion on what Mazda does with the MX5. The syntax you posted suggests that you are saying that other manufacturers must somehow weigh in on what Mazda does with the Miata. Thus, your statement is illogical.

As for sales, the volume of the Miata is virtually nothing and that begs the question as to what would improve volume. The answer is much more power and much better chassis tuning.
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Old 06-09-2018, 05:08 AM
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If it only had the brute power to go with the looks.
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Old 06-13-2018, 07:45 AM
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https://www.carscoops.com/2018/06/20...0-rpm-redline/

For the non Japanese speaking (that would include me) data of the 2019 model. After all, it does get a little more power, with a higher redline (7500rpm, up form 6800 and 181hp, up form 155).

It is still far form a muscle car, but 181ho in a car of approx. 1000kg is still a lot of fun, especially with a RWD chassis (and a very good one), and especially if it is of the naturally aspirated sort (which it is here). Also, a telescoping steering wheel is added for those poor tall people (again, including me), as well as an updated infotainment system with a new (slightly larger) screen.

Let#s not forget, the original Miata weighed roughly the same, was the same size and had 60% of the power; Most cars have indeed also increased their power by the same percentage or even doubled it in the last 3 decades (let's take a Golf GTI, gone form 129hp to 220/230, and that is a quick car still), but also nearly doubled their weight (or at least 50% increase in weight as well), so I still think that the MX5 does not deserve all the bashing it gets power wise...
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Old 06-13-2018, 11:30 AM
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This car along with the 86 are vital.
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Old 06-13-2018, 01:45 PM
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This car along with the 86 are vital.
Vital to old people who go to the track and can drive them with their accelerator foot pegged to the floor and never have to worry about getting in over their heads?

For their prices, the Miata and GT86 are easily outclassed by other performance vehicles. They simply aren't as good as the BS hype their fanboys heap on them.
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Old 06-13-2018, 03:53 PM
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Vital to old people who go to the track and can drive them with their accelerator foot pegged to the floor and never have to worry about getting in over their heads?

For their prices, the Miata and GT86 are easily outclassed by other performance vehicles. They simply aren't as good as the BS hype their fanboys heap on them.

Such an irrational hatred. You must have had some trauma.
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Old 06-13-2018, 05:42 PM
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Such an irrational hatred. You must have had some trauma.
Actually the empirical evidence supports what I've said. A GTI is a Miata's worst nightmare.
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