[paranoidgarliclover]

Hard to make much out under the camo, but it looks significant longer than the current one (I think)....

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a2...ee-2021-spied/

It will share a platform w/ the Stelvio and may have an all-hybrid engine lineup.

[swizzle]

Let's hope that the move to the Giorgio platform does not bring with it the same sub-par quality control and reliability issues.

The GC had to grow because the Cherokee needs to grow.

[boston]

I was just thinking what Dodge would base the next Durango on......and this appears...

[pjl35]

Originally Posted by boston

I was just thinking what Dodge would base the next Durango on......and this appears...

who says there is a next Durango? Dodge has nothing in the pipeline, last I heard.

[swizzle]

The tardiness in the cars off the Giorgio platform getting to market is troubling. There has been an inordinate gap between the Stelvio's announcement and this. S-L-O-W.

[boston]

Originally Posted by pjl35

who says there is a next Durango? Dodge has nothing in the pipeline, last I heard.

JGC may sell 220k a year but not everyone of those 65k a year Durango sales will go to Jeep...Look what happened when the Grand Caravan was killed off.

Originally Posted by swizzle

The tardiness in the cars off the Giorgio platform getting to market is troubling. There has been an inordinate gap between the Stelvio's announcement and this. S-L-O-W.

Agree that product development is ridiculously slow.

[pjl35]

Originally Posted by boston

JGC may sell 220k a year but not everyone of those 65k a year Durango sales will go to Jeep...Look what happened when the Grand Caravan was killed off.

I don't disagree. But my point still stands: I've heard about no rumors or plans from FCA to actually build a next-generation, so my question remains. They've confirmed the Wagoneer/Grand Wagoneer how many times since first announcing it 8.5 years ago...and we still haven't even seen spy shots of it.

Bringing a new generation to production is the logical thing, but just like most of their lineup, the vehicle has been on sale for 8 years so I'm not holding my breath for a new one anytime soon at this rate given their failure to deliver models that they've actually announced.

[swizzle]

The fact that different "hats" could be put on the Giorgio for about $1.49 each in development cost and nothing's happening there is perplexing.

Some places have gone so far as to say that the new Grand Cherokee is just the old one remodeled and given how problematic Giorgio has been, that could be a good thing.

[disap.ed]

Originally Posted by paranoidgarliclover

It will share a platform w/ the Stelvio and may have an all-hybrid engine lineup.

Nothing I have seen points to that. FCA generally seems to be incapable of efficient platform sharing, which is pretty crazy with so many brands to feed.
Second part is definitely not the case. That's all I will say.

Originally Posted by pjl35

They've confirmed the Wagoneer/Grand Wagoneer how many times since first announcing it 8.5 years ago...and we still haven't even seen spy shots of it.

Patience ;)

[mick78]

The lack of platform utilization is staggering, given how Fiat is (together with Chrysler and it'S K-Car) among the pioneers of car platforms (over use); the FIat 128 platform basically spawned a lot of cars (up until the first Seat Ibiza), then the TIpo 4 also used by Saab and the Fiat Tipo platform was up until today's standard super flexible, with various dimensions, front and rear suspension designs and basing basically everything from the late 80ies to mid 2000s that Fiat produced back then; And nowadays, they seem to be rather slow at putting new hats on existing platforms, for whatever reasons, as it can't be such a financial task to redress a Giulia, Stelvio or Jeep Compass for other brands (VAG seems to manage approx. 2 new MQB CUVs every week)...