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Old 03-21-2018, 02:56 AM
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Z was doomed when it shared chassis with a damn SUV
Did that doom the Z, or did that doom the SUV to be horrible at people and cargo carrying?
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Old 03-21-2018, 03:11 AM
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the 350Z sold well, the 370Z was hard to distinguish from it.

hard to see doomed outright, but certainly dropped the standard, the 300ZX was pretty damn cool
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Old 03-21-2018, 03:22 AM
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Neither sold well.
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Old 03-21-2018, 02:03 PM
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Did that doom the Z, or did that doom the SUV to be horrible at people and cargo carrying?
SUVs were never good at caring people or cargo, vans were and still are.
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Old 03-21-2018, 07:27 PM
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SUVs were never good at caring people or cargo, vans were and still are.
I agree, but the old QX50 was supposedly even much worse than most SUVs.
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Old 03-21-2018, 07:57 PM
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Neither sold well.
Finding a business case for a slow or low seller in a fickle market segment is Nissan's ultimate dilemma. They're wanting to say yes, but the numbers just don't add up.
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Old 03-21-2018, 11:57 PM
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Finding a business case for a slow or low seller in a fickle market segment is Nissan's ultimate dilemma. They're wanting to say yes, but the numbers just don't add up.
Having a dead-wrong product didn't help either.
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Old 03-22-2018, 08:41 AM
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Having a dead-wrong product didn't help either.
I had the impression that the 350Z, altogether, was certainly not a "wrong" product, or bad; It sold reasonably well in it's first years, and it#s design, whilst probably not for everyone, did stand out. Problem was IMO that there was little on development (it neither moved into a handling direction like the Toybaruu tries, with limited sales success, nor was there any significant power upgrade), and the 370Z felt like a half hearted reskin too, which looked less unique than the 350 too; Keeping it virtually unchanged for nearly 10 years now in a market where sports coupes are less and less in the focus, thnaks to a cross over craze, helped to kill what life was left in the Z line up;
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Old 03-23-2018, 01:23 PM
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I had the impression that the 350Z, altogether, was certainly not a "wrong" product, or bad; It sold reasonably well in it's first years, and it#s design, whilst probably not for everyone, did stand out. Problem was IMO that there was little on development (it neither moved into a handling direction like the Toybaruu tries, with limited sales success, nor was there any significant power upgrade), and the 370Z felt like a half hearted reskin too, which looked less unique than the 350 too; Keeping it virtually unchanged for nearly 10 years now in a market where sports coupes are less and less in the focus, thnaks to a cross over craze, helped to kill what life was left in the Z line up;
Nissan will blame the crossover craze--not their idiocy--for the death of the Z car.

The 350Z stood out like an Aztek stands out. The 370Z was even uglier.

The 350Z had major mechanical issues (brake failures and fragile transmissions) along with structural issues. They get flexible really quickly, so buy the aftermarket body braces. Those issues were not fully rectified on the 370Z.

Both were aimed at the low-end of Porsche, but--other than import-tuner boys--no one wants an expensive car with a Nissan badge. The 350/370Z simply are not enough car for the money.
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They are everywhere here around the mean suburbs of Atlanta. A few tried to race me last night.
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