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Old 08-31-2012, 05:14 PM
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worlds better than the messy Fiesta.
What in hell are you smoking?

Though I also think the Note is nice-looking...
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it seems to me that Nissan have found some kind of mojo which is good. I just hope ot doesnt drive like a dog!
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Why doesn't Nissan make use of their partnership with Renault and bring over cars like the Clio? Now that'd be competitive.
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I don't know how good the 1st generation Note is, but rumour is that this 2nd generation will also replace the Nissan Livina. That being said, this is going to be a huge improvement, since the Livina is a low cost minivan developed in Thailand/China exclusively for emerging markets. Even in pictures I can see that the difference is quite big.
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I don't know how good the 1st generation Note is, but rumour is that this 2nd generation will also replace the Nissan Livina. That being said, this is going to be a huge improvement, since the Livina is a low cost minivan developed in Thailand/China exclusively for emerging markets. Even in pictures I can see that the difference is quite big.
Is this really large enough to replace the Livina?

Also, isn't there an LWB version of the Livina, as well?
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What in hell are you smoking?

Though I also think the Note is nice-looking...
The Fiesta was styled by someone who equates "surface excitement" with good design. The Fiesta is a great product, but looking at it in the flesh just reveals a cacophony lines and arcs. Compare the Fiesta to the Sonic and the Sonic by far has more coherent styling. The Note--for a Nissan--isn't bad.
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The Fiesta was styled by someone who equates "surface excitement" with good design. The Fiesta is a great product, but looking at it in the flesh just reveals a cacophony lines and arcs. Compare the Fiesta to the Sonic and the Sonic by far has more coherent styling. The Note--for a Nissan--isn't bad.
Definitely not. Fiesta still holds the torch for best Sub-Compact design in my book.
The exterior is the most bold and daring, yet well rounded and finished. The interior is by far the most well executed and uses the best materials. The Sonic is bore in comparison, especially the sedan.
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Im with swizzle on this, both the Fiesta and Focus are awful functional designs - like SUVs retroshaped into cars. I wouldnt kiss one or take one to cinnabon.
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Definitely not. Fiesta still holds the torch for best Sub-Compact design in my book.
The exterior is the most bold and daring, yet well rounded and finished. The interior is by far the most well executed and uses the best materials. The Sonic is bore in comparison, especially the sedan.
Agreed. The Fiesta isn't a simple design but it's extremely well-done, at least in hatch form (the sedan isn't terrible but the proportions are gawky). The only other subcompact that comes close is the Rio.

The Sonic is nice, but I'm not a big fan of the cliff-face rear end and the Chevy grille is way too big - I think the Fiesta, while busier, is a much more coherent, integrated design.

It's all a matter of opinion, though.
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Swizzle's crusade against "surface excitement" knows no bounds.
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