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Old 01-11-2017, 09:42 AM
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Looks great, inside and out, and if the price is right this could sway people away from cars like the Mustang/Camaro or from buying second hand BMWs and Audis. No way will a KIA badge persuade the purists or those who have money to buy it. It is a shame KIA didn't take this chance to update their logo - it seems many people won't even give the brand a chance cause of its...branding! Its a small issue which affects sales and perception IMO. With the Stinger, KIA has all eyes on them and they should have listened to all 'complaints' prior to the launch.

Apart from that small thing, hopefully it drives as well as it looks. If they can achieve that it will be great. And let's face it, with all the talent they bought from Germany it should.
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Old 01-11-2017, 10:08 AM
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Looks great, inside and out, and if the price is right this could sway people away from cars like the Mustang/Camaro or from buying second hand BMWs and Audis. No way will a KIA badge persuade the purists or those who have money to buy it. It is a shame KIA didn't take this chance to update their logo - it seems many people won't even give the brand a chance cause of its...branding! Its a small issue which affects sales and perception IMO. With the Stinger, KIA has all eyes on them and they should have listened to all 'complaints' prior to the launch.

Apart from that small thing, hopefully it drives as well as it looks. If they can achieve that it will be great. And let's face it, with all the talent they bought from Germany it should.
Actually I have never heard people complain about the Kia badge inn terms of the look of the badge. Image wise surely there are still memories of not so great cars like Sephia, Cerato and first Sportage (though that now is seen as a very good car, despite keening the name of the first dismal generation), but the cars of the last 10 years ahve achieved probably the biggest image boost ever. Personally I think though the Stinger is probably as far as Kia can go as a brand, like with VW and their Phaeton,at one point sharing the showroom and badge with cheapo super minis just stretches the brand too much.

Hyundai now has Genesis for that. Weirdly though, I think the Stinger looks more premium, head turning and desirable than any current genesis product though, so again to me proving that Hyundai/Kia still haven't fully figured out the positioning of their brands....
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Old 01-11-2017, 11:04 AM
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That is one very ugly looking car, that seems to be a different car front/back, with he front all rounded, and the rear all sharp.

They should have better built the GT4 Stinger, with powerful V6 Turbo, RWD/AWD and soft-road version, priced like BMW 1 Series I6.
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Old 01-11-2017, 05:16 PM
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Because I'm not partial to sharp or rounded, only design consistency?
Point taken.

I don't like the flat grey color, it's pretty lifeless.
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Old 01-11-2017, 05:36 PM
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They should have better built the GT4 Stinger, with powerful V6 Turbo, RWD/AWD and soft-road version, priced like BMW 1 Series I6.
They're barely going to sell any as it is now--this is hardly a volume car. But if a four-door sports sedan is a tough sell, a two-door coupe is impossible. The market for coupes is deader than Elvis.

I personally think it's a wonderful throwback to before everything was about electric autonomous SUVs backed by MBA-produced business cases. And if it drives as good as people are saying, all the better.
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Old 01-11-2017, 08:25 PM
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I personally think it's a wonderful throwback to before everything was about electric autonomous SUVs backed by MBA-produced business cases. And if it drives as good as people are saying, all the better.
Concur. I've been looking forward to its release for a while now and it hasn't disappointed so far, and I do hope it drives as great as it looks.
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Old 01-11-2017, 10:25 PM
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And if it drives as good as people are saying, all the better.
Have there been prototype drives already? I don't recall seeing any published.
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Old 01-11-2017, 10:30 PM
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Have there been prototype drives already? I don't recall seeing any published.
Yup--Michael Harley drove it, and suggests it's better than the BMW 4-Series GC:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelh.../#5d3057d537e7
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Old 01-12-2017, 01:20 AM
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Yup--Michael Harley drove it, and suggests it's better than the BMW 4-Series GC:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelh.../#5d3057d537e7
Certainly sounds promising! Give it decent ride quality (I don't need 19-in wheels, thanks!), and it may indeed be a winner. I wonder if they'll price the V-6 at what the competition charges for 4-cyl? That would be FANTASTIC.
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Old 01-12-2017, 01:59 AM
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Yup--Michael Harley drove it, and suggests it's better than the BMW 4-Series GC:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelh.../#5d3057d537e7
These days literally NO ONE gives an accurate assessment of vehicles. People go on a press junket and crow about how wonderful a vehicle is for fear of not being invited to the next junket.

I hope the Stinger is wonderful. Hyundia-Kia has made phenomenal progress, but whenever someone gushes "best in class", take it with a grain of salt. Remember that people gushed over the Jaguar XE and Alfa Romeo Giulia and neither has given Mercedes cause for concern.
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