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Old 11-26-2007, 09:54 AM
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[update] 2008 Dodge Challenger drivetrains leaked

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Earlier this year, spy photos emerged of a production-ready Dodge Challenger and now details on the car's drivetrains have been leaked ahead of the car's February debut at the Chicago Auto Show.

The Challenger was originally expected to be offered with a manual transmission and V8 engine only, but Allpar.com is reporting that the first 5,000 units will all be SRT-8 models with an automatic transmission. In addition, these first car will begin production as early as March 2008 and will be sold as 2008 model year cars.

Shortly after that initial production run, Dodge will be offering three models of the Challenger as 2009 model year cars. The base model will be powered by a 3.5L V6 and will be mated to a four-speed automatic transmission. The 3.5L will be replaced by Chrysler's upcoming 4.0L Phoenix V6, but probably not until the 2011 model year.

R/T models will come equipped with a 5.7L V8 and buyers will have the option of a five-speed automatic or a six-speed manual. The SRT-8 model adds a 6.1L V8 and can be mated to a five-speed auto or six-speed manual. A 6.4L could show up in the SRT model as soon as the 2010 model year.

A convertible is also expected to bow sometime in 2009 with all three trim levels available.

Manual transmission cars will come with Chrysler's Hill Start Assist technology  as used in the Dodge Ram, Jeep Commander, Grand Cherokee and the Liberty  which maintains brake pressure until throttle is applied.

Dodge will also offer a Trak Pack, which appears to be little more than a marketing name given to a specific package of transmission, shifter and gearing.

Recent images have also confirm the addition of a b-pillar to the Challenger's structure. Other less noticeable changes include taillights that have been divided into sections, a simplified grille, larger side mirrors, and more typical door handles.

source: leftlanenews
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Old 11-26-2007, 10:08 AM
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By the time the Challenger is released, the R/T level could have the updated Hemi with some 380hp from what I understand, that could be why the SRT is introduced first. Who knows what upgrade is in store for the Hemi SRT later on, but I'm sure it'll more than impress!

The entry-level Challenger is a little disappointing with a 3.5L V6 and a dated 4-speed automatic, but that six puts out 250hp, which is greater than the entry-level Mustang's 210hp V6, and there's a "Phoenix" V6 series Chrysler being developing to succeed the 3.5L, and that should find a home in not only the entry-level Challenger, but it's entry LX (LY) platform-mates and other Chrysler products as well. Perhaps the tranny would be upgraded at that time, too.

In speculation: maybe the Ford would fight back by placing the Duratec 3.5L V6, used in quite a few Ford products now, in the entry Mustang, and that would sport some 265hp (I drove the Ford Edge with that powerplant, and it did move out very well) and, at the GM camp, the entry/base Camaro could sport a 250-some odd hp V6 used in other GM entries.

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Old 11-27-2007, 07:53 PM
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"Manual transmission cars will come with Chrysler's Hill Start Assist technology - as used in the Dodge Ram, Jeep Commander, Grand Cherokee and the Liberty - which maintains brake pressure until throttle is applied."

Interesting. As I learned to drive a stick in San Francisco (probably the hardest place on earth), I can certainly see a use for this. Does anyone know if it holds the brake both when the car is in gear and when in neutral?

If so, that would be sweet to be able to put the car in N and take your feet completely off the petals for those long stoplights on hills...

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Old 11-27-2007, 08:07 PM
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I don't think so. AFAIK, the features only allows a few seconds to switch pedals and begin applying throttle.
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Old 11-29-2007, 12:43 PM
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2008 Dodge Challenger SRT8 Official Pricing.

The Dodge brand announced pricing today for the 2008 Dodge Challenger SRT8. The manufacturer's suggested retail price (MSRP) for this modern interpretation of the American muscle car is $37,995, which includes $675 destination. Due to unprecedented demand, Dodge dealers will begin taking orders on Dec. 3 for the limited edition Challenger SRT8. Each coupe will feature a numbered dash plaque and a 6.1-liter HEMI V-8 engine. The car will be available in black, silver and HEMI Orange. All will feature dual carbon-fiber hood stripes, harkening back to the original Dodge Challenger. "The 2008 Dodge Challenger SRT8 offers pure American pony-car muscle," Jim Press, Vice Chairman and President, said. "With styling that stays true to Challenger's original heritage, an abundance of modern amenities and cutting-edge technology, the 2008 Dodge Challenger SRST8 will deliver the SRT credo of benchmark performance at a tremendous value."

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Old 12-01-2007, 01:23 PM
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Scratch the 38K starting base price for the SRT-8 Challenger, add $2,100 gas-guzzler tax.
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Old 12-01-2007, 03:48 PM
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...and then add dealer markup...my guess, much closer to 50k.
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Old 12-02-2007, 06:16 AM
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...and then add dealer markup...my guess, much closer to 50k.

Correct answer!

It will be just like the plight of the Shelby GT500. Supposedly it can be had for mid to high 40's...after dealer markup...not so pretty.

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Old 12-03-2007, 09:35 AM
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I think that the limited release of the top-end model is brilliant. The dealers have to be rewarded for sticking around through the years that brought some pretty bad product to their sales floors, but relatively few customers. Chrysler will put out a directive that "no gouging shall occur", but are going to turn a blind eye.

Although it sounds socialist, it really makes sense to put the burden of the price on those who think that they must have this car before their friends, etc.

In so doing, Chrysler insures that they have a pseudo-halo car out there (assuming that the build quality is tolerable) as well as plenty of time to build up enough inventory that the regular guys will get their Hemi Challenger without the "Customer Demand Adjustment" on the extra window sticker.

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Old 12-04-2007, 08:53 AM
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Oh, those Leftlanenews guys. Stealing directly from Autoblog but without the reference to the guys who broke the story at http://www.allpar.com/ ! SHAME ON THEM.

And for those who want more, the story on allpar's been updated. http://www.allpar.com/cars/dodge/challenger.html

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