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Old 02-28-2017, 06:15 PM
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BMW desperately needs this in the USA.
the lack of a 1/2 series sedan in the US means BMW offers a much roomier base 320i for roughly the same price as a Merc CLA and Audi A3. Not a terrible trade off.
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Old 02-28-2017, 08:41 PM
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BMW desperately needs this in the USA.
Not this ugly duckling. Perhaps a nose job would help.
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Old 02-28-2017, 09:00 PM
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Not this ugly duckling. Perhaps a nose job would help.
Lol you just praised the looks of the Eclipse Cross, so that might impact my view on the weight of your opinion ;)
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Old 02-28-2017, 09:04 PM
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Looks like every other Bimmer - just a bit smaller.

Admittedly the BMW's have aged well - but it's time for new / fresh IMO.
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Old 03-01-2017, 02:42 AM
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the lack of a 1/2 series sedan in the US means BMW offers a much roomier base 320i for roughly the same price as a Merc CLA and Audi A3. Not a terrible trade off.
Let's see a totally stripped 3 Series for A3 money or a well-equipped 1 Series. 1 Series hands down.
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Let's see a totally stripped 3 Series for A3 money or a well-equipped 1 Series. 1 Series hands down.
If you assume that the 1 series were either cheaper or better equipped for the same price, I might agree.

But at least in Europe, the 1 series comes even more stripped, and compare similar cars you end up paying roughly the same at the dealer (at least where I live). If a 3 series is too large for you fine, but otherwise there is a reason the vast majority of 1 series here are 114i hatchbacks in rental cars spec (but with larger M-line wheels, to impress your neighbor), it's the only version cheaper, as it is not offered on the 3 series, but still has the important badge.
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Old 03-01-2017, 11:33 AM
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Looks like a typical BMW sedan design effort i.e. stale and yawn-inducing.
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Old 03-01-2017, 02:12 PM
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Let's see a totally stripped 3 Series for A3 money or a well-equipped 1 Series. 1 Series hands down.
To me RWD, a light nose, and bigger back seat win all day long.
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Old 03-01-2017, 02:31 PM
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If you assume that the 1 series were either cheaper or better equipped for the same price, I might agree....
It obviously would be less expensive at base and better equipped comparably priced to a 3 Series.
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To me RWD, a light nose, and bigger back seat win all day long.
The FWD car would likely have the bigger back seat. If I wanted the performance of RWD it sure as hell would not be under a sedan.
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