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Old 04-30-2013, 12:45 AM
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Hey guys!

About a month ago I leased a 2013 Cadillac ATS 2.0 awd.

So last week it started with my check engine light. On Wednesday, the check engine light came on and in the message center it said 'engine power is reduced'. Thursday it was just the check engine light. Then I brought the car in to the dealer Friday, at which point everything seemed back to normal. They did an error code check on my car and said that there was some sort of problem with the oil pressure. They said they checked for leaks and it all seemed OK.

Yesterday, I was driving back from a weekend away (about 150 miles or so) and the interior chime started beeping and the message center said 'oil pressure low, please turn off car'. So I pulled into a rest stop, at which point the car started stalling and sounding like a Mac Truck. The car starts but does not run or drive. The dealer told me that likely the whole entire engine needs to be replaced because the oil pump failed.

I'm very wary about taking the same car back with a new engine since its so new. I feel like this could create potential problems down the road. I would really like them to give me an entirely new car. Any advice?
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Old 04-30-2013, 02:28 AM
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Yikes! Good luck! Call GM Customer Service immediately. Have one of their guys go to the dealership and check out the car, and see what their solution is. I was lucky enough to have GM do a buy-back on our brand new CTS a few years back. Our car suffered a sunroof drain clog that caused the rear passenger footwell and spare tire compartment to constantly fill with water. We had it for 3 months, and it sat in the shop for most of that time. Unfortunately, we were not reimbursed for any payments made, or down payment for that matter on a car we were barely able to use. GM bought the car back, and offered us a new CTS, but we chose to walk away.
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Old 04-30-2013, 05:39 AM
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That's really helpful. Thanks!

I put the entire down payment on my american express and they have pretty good purchase protection so I could always try and fight it with them. I plan to ask the dealer if they can get me in a new car, and if not i'll try GM customer service
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Old 05-02-2013, 02:40 AM
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I don't see any problem if they replace the entire motor. The motor is shipped complete to them. They simply unbolt the old one and drop in the new one (ok, not that simple). Even the electronic connectors are designed to be unplugged with ease. Remember that the dealer will get paid by GM for all labor costs so a lot of new designs have simplicity and speed in mind so GM doesn't have to pay out of their asses in warranty.

If the dealer rebuilds the motor then you have every right to complain. You need all new bearings and the block needs to be milled for larger bearings since the old ones spun and made groves at where they're placed. That's not original anymore. They're doing something that's normally done on motors that have over 80K miles on them.
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Old 05-02-2013, 06:06 AM
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Clearly your engine had a defect. That could have been something to do with the oil pick up, or the oil pump.
Take the new engine and drive.

Any ability to delay the lease payments while the car sits at the shop?
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Old 05-02-2013, 05:33 PM
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I've never seen anything like that with a new car, but I wouldn't sign anything if I were you and contact GM immediately. There has to be some law regarding issues like that. It's not like your filter failed, the entire engine needs replacement.

I mean, this sounds like something where you should be able to get a new car, but only by contacting GM PR office. If the engine failed like that, there could be more problems that haven't shown up yet. But if they say replace engine only, no new car. Make sure they don't rebuild it. Tell them to show you the new engine besides the old engine and preferably watch as they swap it out. That's what I would do.
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Old 05-03-2013, 12:51 AM
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Beyond what I said earlier, its a lease. He'll be walking away from it in three years or less. 100% warranty no cost to him during his time with the vehicle.
If he owned it, I would be pushing for an extended warranty on the vehicle.

As for cars failing like this. It does happen. One friend's Acura lost a tranny at 500 miles. Replaced and alls well for 180k.
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Old 05-03-2013, 04:52 AM
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My salesman contacted me and told me to open a case file with Cadillac Customer Service (which I did a day prior) and he said that I have a good chance at getting the entire car replaced.
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In kind or do you have the option of getting a different trim / engine? that 3.6L V6 has been around a good bit longer
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Clearly the engine had a defect of epic proportion. Replacing it would not affect the car in any way and that would be the most expedient move. A whole new car would be a bit of a stretch given that the issue was clearly with the engine. If they give you a new car fine, but if they replace the engine, that should do it. Best of luck.
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