[paranoidgarliclover]

Originally Posted by swizzle

The bottom line, however, is that Callum's styling genius is long gone. Some heritage styling for the sedans is desperately necessary. The Bertone B99 showed how to do heritage without being retro. It is still gorgeous while the XJ looks like what it is: a pathetic Merkur Scorpio tribute.

The stance of the XJ is actually, IMHO, quite good. The prob is that the detailing and side surfacing are clunky. A Jag (even a Jag sedan) needs to be sensuous and voluptuous. The XJ is... not.

I liked the Bertone concept but still don't think it would've pointed to a long-term design direction for the brand.

Maybe Jag should take more of a Porsche approach to constructing its model lineup....

[Ascariss]

Originally Posted by mick78

So against all denial at first, here is the official teaser of the second generation Sportbreak.

I feel the denial was for an XE wagon

[swizzle]

Originally Posted by paranoidgarliclover

...Maybe Jag should take more of a Porsche approach to constructing its model lineup....

And make every vehicle a rude caricature of the E Type? ;)

[paranoidgarliclover]

Originally Posted by swizzle

And make every vehicle a rude caricature of the E Type? ;)

Eh, Jaguar might've sold more cars that way.... ;) Better than re-bodied Ford and Lincolns, no?

And the 924/944/968/whatever and 928 weren't caricatures. And Porsche hasn't done any "coupe" SUVs, even though such a car would make more sense coming from Porsche than it would from any other manufacturer.

Of course, the other 2 doors didn't sell as well as the 911, I think....

[mick78]

Originally Posted by Ascariss

I feel the denial was for an XE wagon

At some point there were a few articles indicating that the XF Sportbreak wouldn't be replaced, as it didn't sell in larger numbers and the market is shifting towards cross overs, some of those articles even indicating that it has been confirmed by Jaguar that there won't be a new estate, but some "larger than F-Pace" Cross over instead (apparently, as indicated, Ian Callum was misquoted, buit it would not have surprised me if it had turned out to be the truth).

At least all those wanting a Jaguar estate car will be happy, unlike those who were hoping for an Alfa Romeo Giulia Spportswagon (the 156/159 SW versions were quite lookers, so it's probably a shame indeed). However, given how well the F-Pace sells, I guess a laregr Jaguar Cross over will be more important market wise than this estate...

[pcread]

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/n...ed-june-launch

looks unremarkable, which is probably a good thing in this segment.

[Ascariss]

Merged the 2 threads until official photos are released.

[ocn75]

Looks decent enough.