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Old 01-13-2005, 03:01 PM
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Why do most pickups still have leaf springs in the back?
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Old 01-14-2005, 09:56 AM
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Not sure if its on topic but why did GM let the Aztec make it to production. I mean didnt the focus groups throw up or something and how does a car go threw so many people before they figure its doomed

Along the same lines...why did they ever release the Baja, and every other one that failed miserably

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Old 01-14-2005, 11:08 AM
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Why does Kia exist?

Beacuse it was a competing company to other korean domestic companies which grew to become second only to Hyundai in it's domestic market. Since being acquired by Hyundai, Hyundai has become the defacto ruler of the korean domestic market (with upwards of 70% marketshare), and by having an alternate brand, it allows hyundai to move it's brand upmarket, while retaining Kia in a more value oriented price point.

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Why is it that Japanese car manufactures such as Toyota, Honda and Nissan make most of their cars in America(to be sold to Americans) and U.S auto manufactures like Forrrrrrrd and GM make most of their cars in America, and the Japanese still are able to make better cars than them.Even with the same American workers.

Different management, construction and business practices. It is said that Japanese companies have much better and cooperative relationships with suppliers (and unlike american ones they don't gouge them for costs); which tends to get them better supplier products in return. Also, Foreign automakers don't tend to be saddled with large scale union contracts that limit what they are able to do with ageing inneficient plants. It is interesting to note that the same american companies are able to produce top of the line products that compete succesfully with their japanese and european counterparts, when those products are built i plants outside of northa america. Increasingly that is also the case in north america as well.

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Why do most pickups still have leaf springs in the back?

Because most pick-up trucks are still used for work (even if it's occasional). Leaf springs and rigid rear axles are simple, reliable, very heavy duty, easy to maintain and repair, and most of all extremely durable and cheap to produce. All essential in designing work vehicles.
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Old 01-14-2005, 11:15 AM
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Beacuse it was a competing company to other korean domestic companies which grew to become second only to Hyundai in it's domestic market. Since being acquired by Hyundai, Hyundai has become the defacto ruler of the korean domestic market (with upwards of 70% marketshare), and by having an alternate brand, it allows hyundai to move it's brand upmarket, while retaining Kia in a more value oriented price point.

I read Hyundai is going to introduce its luxury division in the US soon, and Kia is going in the direction of attracting young buyers, Spectra5 was the first move

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Old 01-14-2005, 11:22 AM
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Default Re: Why do they do that?... (Santeno)

its all about money if a company can find a cheaper alternative then they will use it even if for instance a car componant that may look rubbish, they will get more profit,
oh well if car manufacturers did not make these mistake then there would be no such thing as car spy shots
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Old 01-14-2005, 11:28 AM
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I read Hyundai is going to introduce its luxury division in the US soon, and Kia is going in the direction of attracting young buyers, Spectra5 was the first move

From what I hear, Talks of a Hyundai Luxury division are premature. IN all likely hood you will first seea move and accapetance of Hyunday as a purveyor of quality upper middle class vehicles to low level luxury, while kia does the same at the intro to midiemum level. Once people's negatie perceptions change, and resale values level to something resembling those of the more solid brands. then you might see HMC foraying into the Luxury market with a separate sales channel. From what I hear, that is still quite a few years away.
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Old 01-16-2005, 01:54 AM
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Hehe - sorry, I turned the thread into a Kia chat.
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Old 01-16-2005, 02:03 AM
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Ok, getting back on topic:

Why does Ford US fail everytime to see the potential of the Aussie-made Ford Falcon - It sure is way better than it's American counterparts.

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Old 01-17-2005, 06:13 PM
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This is one of my all time favorites, from John Phillips in the April, 2004 issue of Car and Driver.

http://www.caranddriver.com/ar...ber=1

Definitely a hilarious read some of the poor choices in modern car interiors if you have a few minutes.

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Old 01-17-2005, 06:21 PM
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Because most pick-up trucks are still used for work (even if it's occasional). Leaf springs and rigid rear axles are simple, reliable, very heavy duty, easy to maintain and repair, and most of all extremely durable and cheap to produce. All essential in designing work vehicles.

Well yes - but no. I mean they sure are stiff and reliable and cheap, but Coils allow a lot more articulation, are more rugged (leafs usually get in the way and break more easily than coils). Coils are a lot more heavy duty for a pickup truck than leafs, and easier to maintain too. As for durability Coils are a LOT better than leafs, which tend to break if not easily, at least reasonably regularly. I think it all comes down to price, and not really caring for it...

Except of course the real work vehicles... Unimog, Defender, etc... THEY use coils, and carry three times more load and go a lot further off the tarmac

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