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Old 05-08-2018, 10:39 PM
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RX and MDX are regarded by most as one level down from a Mercedes/BMW/Audi/Jaguar though in terms of premiumness (sic).
Because transverse engine.
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Old 05-08-2018, 11:26 PM
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Because transverse engine.
No. It's because they are Japanese Mercurys. Audi and BMW use transverse engines and are considered premium.
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Old 05-09-2018, 12:19 AM
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it has nothing to do with the indivual models, it's the brand that's perceived as one level down. the dealership experience alone is enough to reinforce that ranking.
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Old 05-09-2018, 01:41 AM
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Agree that it looks like a FWD-based vehicle. The looks is surprisingly... cheap. Although it looks to be pretty space-efficient for a luxury SUV....
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Old 05-09-2018, 07:34 AM
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Agree that it looks like a FWD-based vehicle. The looks is surprisingly... cheap. Although it looks to be pretty space-efficient for a luxury SUV....
I think part of the FWD look is the rather tall and airy cabin (the driver seat/steering column in relation to the front axle seems to be more RWD again), in general this seems to hark back to the first generation of M(L) Class - the Jurassic park one - which IMO, despite being rather poor quality, was teh best looking so far. I'm also glad they keep the traditional thick c pillar and don't make it just a GLC photocopied at 110% setting...
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Old 05-09-2018, 01:04 PM
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...this seems to hark back to the first generation of M(L) Class...whichwas teh best looking so far....
For me the ML looked like an awkward minivan especially from behind.
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Old 05-09-2018, 01:13 PM
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For me the ML looked like an awkward minivan especially from behind.
I wouldn't call it a beauty, but the following generations have hardly been an improvement
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Old 05-09-2018, 05:52 PM
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It should look good but nothing exciting I feel. Mercedes playing it save it seems lately with their designs.
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Old 05-10-2018, 10:31 PM
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I wouldn't call it a beauty, but the following generations have hardly been an improvement
Yes, damning w/ faint praise. I actually thought that the AAC Concept had some promise (but also some very odd design features) but thought that the original ML just looked... weak. I also consider it the symbol of MB's horrific (and thankfully, relatively short lived) decline in the late 1990s.

I can't really tell the length of the firewall from the pics. The front cutline for the front doors is insanely close to the wheelwell, although that could be a visual trick b/c of the cladding. And, yes, the distance to the steering wheel/dash would be a better indicator.

I'm surprised the front looks as different from the GLC as it does, although the rear end looks virtually identical.

For me, I think the most important part will be the interior, b/c I feel that's been the weakest design aspect of the current gen GLE/GLS.
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Old 05-11-2018, 09:05 AM
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For me the ML looked like an awkward minivan especially from behind.
All of Mercedes crossovers, save for the new GLC look like awkward minivans to me, especially from behind. I remember the ML winning COTY with Motor Trend, and they didn't even hide it at the time, saying that it's a cross between a minivan and an SUV.

It was fine when there was only one car in the market at the time. Then everyone else got involved.
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