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Old 06-14-2018, 10:47 PM
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...There is a place, esp in today's automotive landscape where nearly everything pulls very impressive numbers, for a car that emphasizes subjective driving enjoyment, IMHO.
I agree, but explain this to me: why can't there be a Miata GT option with 300 horsepower and a handling suspension with some meat to the tires?
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Old 06-15-2018, 01:46 AM
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I agree, but explain this to me: why can't there be a Miata GT option with 300 horsepower and a handling suspension with some meat to the tires?
A Porsche 718 Boxster isn't close enough?

I think a Miata w/, let's say, 220 hp might make sense. W/ 300 hp and wide tires... It just seems like unnecessary overkill, IMHO.
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Old 06-15-2018, 02:58 AM
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I agree, but explain this to me: why can't there be a Miata GT option with 300 horsepower and a handling suspension with some meat to the tires?
Mazda does not have huge budget compared to other Japanese automakers.

The fastest engine in the current lineup is 2.5 liter turbo engine (SKYACTIV-G Turbo) which generates something like 220-250 HP.

I don't know if the 2.5 engine will fit in the Miata though...........
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Old 06-15-2018, 10:23 AM
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I agree, but explain this to me: why can't there be a Miata GT option with 300 horsepower and a handling suspension with some meat to the tires?

Because Mustang.
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Old 06-15-2018, 11:29 AM
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Guys, keep in mind that Mazda is keeping the power low on purpose. And you knew this.
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Old 06-15-2018, 11:40 AM
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Guys, keep in mind that Mazda is keeping the power low on purpose. And you knew this.


Similar idea behind the toyota 86 (old and new unless you have the Group A engine) and lower end versions of the lotus elise are hot even with 140 hp.
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https://www.topgear.com/car-news/mee...rop-head-coupe
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Old 01-11-2019, 02:13 PM
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Yeah, a tape stripe package is what the Miata needs, not 300 horsepower and some suspension tuning to go along with it.

If Mazda is keeping power low on purpose the only reason can be to keep sales from happening. A 300 horsepower Miata for $30K would probably more than double the sales volume.
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Old 01-11-2019, 02:56 PM
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Only in the US a 300 hp roadster can be sold at 30k. Elsewhere in the world it’ll be double that price.
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Yeah, a tape stripe package is what the Miata needs, not 300 horsepower and some suspension tuning to go along with it.

If Mazda is keeping power low on purpose the only reason can be to keep sales from happening. A 300 horsepower Miata for $30K would probably more than double the sales volume.
I hear what you're saying - and as an enthusiast, I agree with that. However folks on this board are 'hard core' drivers...average Joe drivers don't need that much...more is always better - but Miata doesn't need that much IMO.

The biggest barrier to sales success on Miata (IMO) is:
- Ugly; Mazda has arguably the best styling, but Miata falls WAY short; the Kudo design language would have fit this car beautifully...especially w/ some of the 'fan mock up's' we saw
- Car is too small. North Americans tend to be more 'robust' in size vs. elsewhere in the world; as a 6'2 guy at 210 lbs, I just can't fit in this thing
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