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Old 06-07-2017, 10:04 AM
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can't find the thread... move if it exists, but this one's been driving around, in form of a mules and recently all wrapped in, for quite some time now...

mules from a while ago:

http://www.pistonudos.com/wp-content...11-790x593.jpg
http://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/imag...508-spy_13.jpg
http://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/imag...-508-spy_8.jpg

and the "real deal":

https://images.caradisiac.com/images...iac-400012.jpg
https://images.caradisiac.com/images...iac-400013.jpg

https://i58.servimg.com/u/f58/18/95/57/73/newbmw10.jpg

https://i58.servimg.com/u/f58/14/14/63/55/2018-p11.jpg
https://i58.servimg.com/u/f58/14/14/63/55/2018-p10.jpg
https://i58.servimg.com/u/f58/14/14/63/55/2018-p12.jpg

source: worldscoop.forumpro.fr


I hope that it is down to camouflage, but I find it slightly too "wooden"... so, I hope it'll end up looking more "dynamic" and "dramatic". judging by their last few concepts and latest production models, it should...
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Old 06-07-2017, 10:12 AM
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On the one hand I kind of admire the French still producing their large family sedans, given how France is the only market they sell in any number to be taken serious. Must be a thing of national pride

On the other hand, this looks really dull, with the camo on it looks like the previous Volvo S80, an elegant but hardly too modern looking design nowadays.
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Old 06-07-2017, 10:45 AM
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On the one hand I kind of admire the French still producing their large family sedans, given how France is the only market they sell in any number to be taken serious. Must be a thing of national pride

On the other hand, this looks really dull, with the camo on it looks like the previous Volvo S80, an elegant but hardly too modern looking design nowadays.
well... if you check sales numbers of Superb and Passat. there still is a "slight hope" for large family sedans... and God, how I hope this SUV madness will end eventually...
but otherwise, you're right! damn thing does look more like current 508 facelift than like new model.... and it will be a shame if it will end up in that "fashion"... they should learn from experience of Superb, where good looking and self-confident design did wonders for the sales of what we knew as the "ugliest duckling" of the segment....


this of course, is nothing "Peugeot related"... it is just an enthusiastic work of wsc. forum member nicked lagouna3...:

https://i58.servimg.com/u/f58/18/67/87/53/508_bi10.jpg

but I definitely wouldn't mind if it would end up looking like this ;)
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Old 06-07-2017, 11:55 AM
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well... if you check sales numbers of Superb and Passat. there still is a "slight hope" for large family sedans...
Those cars have close to 90% or more fleet sales in Europe, and most non "German" (where I include Opel, Ford of Europe and Skoda) brands struggle to sell to fleets at all. And those are mostly thanks to company car schemes often not yet allowing cross overs/SUVs;

I think the current move to CUV/SUVs will not end, but rather transform normal family cars, just like the 70ies hatchbacks killed small sedans and rear engined cars in Western Europe; Or like the Minivan, that killed the wagon in the US, despite few people actually really using the extra space an MPV offered over a large wagon. Enthusiasts will probably cry, but the market is not static, and people want occasionally a change in their products....
Hell, even the new French president has a DS SUV as parade car, not some large Peugeot sedan or Citroen any more (the C6 basically being the last "outstanding" French car in this respect....)
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Old 06-07-2017, 02:57 PM
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Those cars have close to 90% or more fleet sales in Europe, and most non "German" (where I include Opel, Ford of Europe and Skoda) brands struggle to sell to fleets at all. And those are mostly thanks to company car schemes often not yet allowing cross overs/SUVs;
eh... I guess you're right... though I see a lot of privately owned Superbs and Passats in my country (and I bet there are in yours too, since we are neighbors )... well at least I think they are privately owned, cause they are parked on the driveways and on the streets that obviously do not run by "office buildings", all at the times of the day they shouldn't be parked there, if they were "company vehicles"...

and you are definitely right about the "market fashion" and its consequences... the thing is that I simply do not understand it! well, I understand why hatchbacks (besides of being incomparably better looking) killed small sedans... as well as why minivans killed wagons; they were simply more practical than the other one! ad even that started to tilt more towards "downsides" than "benefits" with the MPV/wagon "duel".
while at this "SUV frenzy", there's no other benefit than "sitting a bit higher".... everything else is practically "on par" (like boot space and cabin roominess) or FAR WORSE (like comfort, handling, weight, running costs)!!! all that just because you sit higher and because you might "need "that 4x4 drive train once in every odd year, when you'll be unlucky enough to drive on "6cm" of snow, because they didn't start plowing it yet (because of "not enough" snow)! not even to mention the stupidity of the fact, that you're "dragging 1/2 tone" of mechanical 4x4 parts around every day! ...most likely in a city where the "wildest off road adventure" would be eventual "climbing a curbside"...

I had... well, my spouse had an SUV for a couple of years... Ford Kuga 2.0l diesel. God what a heavy, relatively uncomfortable and (for longer journeys) tiresome BRICK that was... and as I understood, it had one of the best handlings for SUV...
in other words... it didn't impress me! not even its higher sitting position. so, hooray for each model that doesn't turn out to be SUV...
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Like mick78 said they probably just make them out of national pride.
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Old 06-09-2017, 01:30 PM
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Like mick78 said they probably just make them out of national pride.
:) ... well, pride or not, I'm glad they make them. and that they have the balls not to make them look like an "appliance" ... not that this "helped" them, but still

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On the other hand, this looks really dull, with the camo on
here... a shot where it looks marginally less dull...

https://i58.servimg.com/u/f58/19/14/76/73/508ii10.jpg
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Old 06-09-2017, 02:15 PM
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The rear end looks a bit like A7 - could turn out interesting.
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The shape is ok, but the rear doors look like getting into the rear seat would be a head-banging experience.
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