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Old 08-23-2016, 07:36 AM
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How's Jeep's reputation in the US and Europe when it comes to reliability?
Average. Earlier Grand Chrerokee's where dealer queens, not to a low part though to not being made for long full speed blasts on the Autobahn, e.g. Overheating was an issue. Also, the earlier VM Diesles (and non Diesel SUVs are a tough sell in Europe) were also less than stellar in reliability terms.

Things have improved though, later models seem much better, and ironically it seems that the Fiat Jeeps (Cherokee and Renegade, with the later being very popular in Eruope) make their owners quite happy. Yes, still not Lexus levels of satisfaction, but nowhere near what you would expect a product to be when you come of "Detroit of old" and "Fix it again Tony" times and imagine their collaboration. The 9 speed auto might be a bit of a troubled unit, but then again, most DCTs on the market are too (ford & VW especially).

Reputation wouldn't stop me from getting a Jeep, to put it that way....
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Old 09-14-2016, 05:17 AM
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I suggested Gladiator over Scrambler due to connotations associated with both names.

Gladiator has powerful connotations and was only ever marketed as a Jeep pickup.
I actually prefer Comanche.. but today's world is way too PC for that name ever to resurface.
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Old 09-18-2016, 06:50 PM
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I can't speak to the greater population but I'd describe my Grand Cherokee as a handsome dumb jock. looks great, gets the job done, but build quality is crap, and the infotainment and general electronics are cheap and bug ridden. I think the Wrangler is much less complex, and probably avoids a lot of these problems, at least based on the few people I know who have them.

tangent warning: people might call the Grand Cherokee a cheaper X5 but there are a lot of subtleties that really make the X5 a much better vehicle. worth the ~20k extra for a similarly equipped model? probably if you got it...
Toyota Land Cruiser/Lexus LX are an even better buy than BMW X5 or any other German SUV (except G Wagon which is the only 200 Series alternative).
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Old 09-19-2016, 01:32 AM
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Toyota Land Cruiser/Lexus LX are an even better buy than BMW X5 or any other German SUV (except G Wagon which is the only 200 Series alternative).
if you're actually using them to go off road which few people do. for 99% of the people who buy SUV's, I'd say the packaging and efficiency of the german SUV's as well as on road performance is far more important than off road ability.
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Old 10-18-2016, 05:56 PM
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http://www.autoblog.com/2016/10/18/2...n-dealer-leak/

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Old 10-19-2016, 04:43 PM
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Leaked styling buck--NOT the final design, but an early iteration from the start of the process.
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Old 11-02-2016, 07:46 PM
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taken at the same location. Far better quality. Someone was trying some games with the other shot

http://www.jlwranglerforums.com/foru...in-Clay-Models
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Old 11-02-2016, 09:32 PM
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Looks pretty good, but what's with the giant black outlines on the windows?
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Old 11-03-2016, 12:51 AM
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Looks pretty good, but what's with the giant black outlines on the windows?
Probably a replacement for the current half-doors.
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Old 11-03-2016, 01:03 AM
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Notice the different details on each side. A common way for manufacturers to assess different looks on development styling mules
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