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Old 02-13-2018, 08:57 AM
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Perhaps Swindon could build it, but who knows as one plant in Japan is being shut down.
Given the Japanese makers are threatening to leave the UK if there is no proper Brexit deal, I kind of doubt for any new product plans in the immediate future. In 2 years probably.
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Old 02-13-2018, 01:35 PM
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They already have that. They sell the CDX in China which is based on the HRV.
Hasn't the HRV been a bit of a sales dud? If so, why does Acura think introducing a modestly blinged version with a premium price would be a good idea?
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Old 02-13-2018, 02:24 PM
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Hasn't the HRV been a bit of a sales dud? If so, why does Acura think introducing a modestly blinged version with a premium price would be a good idea?
The HRV has been a dud in the sense that these vehicles aren't living up to the "boom" prediction, but let's see why. It's "indifferently" styled. It's not particularly a good value for the price. Advertising has been scant. It serves largely to get people to move up to a CRV when they are on the lot looking.

Of this segment in the USA, I think the manufacturers have it wrong. They think "let's do the same thing, but one size smaller" and sometimes add "just phone it in" as well.

This segment should stand apart with fun oozing from its pores. "Trax" sounds butch but the vehicle is testosterone free. "Ecosport" sounds fast and zippy and fun, but the vehicle is a Third World snoozer. "HRV" says nothing and Honda delivers that in spades.

Toyota caught on to the idea that their vehicle in the segment needed to lead with styling, but they got the styling wrong and they have a vehicle with sales that failed to ignite.

Jeep does the segment best with the Renegade and Compass.
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It's not particularly a good value for the price. Advertising ha
Indeed, also in Europe, the HRV is very close in price to the CRV; Being more of a sensible choice than a stylish one (which would help to separate, like say the Juke or a Toyota CHR, or even the boxy 'n cute Renegade vs. the more mature Compass), many people go for the way more spacious, and hardly more expensive CRV anyway...
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Old 02-14-2018, 07:26 AM
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Honda sold 94K HR-V's last year in the US.

Compared to 49K Fits last year.

The HR-V outsells the Fit 2 to 1.


(Chevy sold 79K Trax SUV's)



Who said the HR-V was a dud? That's a straight up lie.
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...Who said the HR-V was a dud? That's a straight up lie.
Semantics. This segment was supposed to instantly obliterate sedan sales if you believed the hype, yet it doesn't have the Civic's volume for example. The segment simply hasn't been the gold rush that the pundits said it would be. Respectable sales to pad the bottom line, sure, but not the magic elixir of unbridled sales that the segment was pumped up as being.
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Old 02-15-2018, 03:33 AM
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While the civic has turned into an SUV sitting at car ride height....
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Old 02-15-2018, 08:45 AM
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While the civic has turned into an SUV sitting at car ride height....
How? The regular Civic isn't even a hatchback, and has one of the lowest seating positions in it's segment IMO; it looks long, wide and low on the outside as well. By any definition it is a sedan and certainly not a pretend SUV...
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Old 02-16-2018, 01:52 AM
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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-c...-idUSKBN1FW124

The recall involves the CR-V sport utility vehicle and the Civic car equipped with a 1.5-litre turbo engine, Honda’s joint venture with Dongfeng Motor Group Co Ltd (0489.HK) said in a statement on Monday.

The company is calling back those cars to resolve a problem caused by an unusual amount of un-combusted petrol collecting in the engine’s lubricant oil pan.

The issue in some cases caused a strong odor of gasoline inside the car and in other cases the car’s check-engine light came on. Honda and Dongfeng plan to resolve the issue by updating the engine’s gasoline injection control software.
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How? The regular Civic isn't even a hatchback, and has one of the lowest seating positions in it's segment IMO; it looks long, wide and low on the outside as well. By any definition it is a sedan and certainly not a pretend SUV...
A bit of sarcasm involved, put your pants back on... ;)

The sedan almost feels like a hatch back with its very short decklid. And the tallish roof gives off that impression of being a bit SUVish. Maybe this is indeed just opinion but the car is much more utilitarian with lots of interior space than it is sleek looking.

Long, wide, low? Yeah, SUVs are going that way too.

Its a design that has certainly appealed to many for sure.
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