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Old 07-28-2009, 12:06 PM
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Some more info from autocar. The price is 150k pounds or 170,000 euros.

http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsAr...llCars/241891/

These are the first official pictures and details of the Ferrari 458 Italia - the replacement for the Ferrari F430.

The Ferrari 458 Italia draws inspiration from the Enzo and takes a new look influenced by the Mille Chili concept car.

Ferrari 458 Italia picture gallery - now including interior pictures

Ferrari has confirmed that the car, codenamed F142 and long rumoured to be named the F450, will be called the 458 Italia. The name derives from the powerplant: a 4.5-litre V8 which Ferrari claims has the highest specific output of any normally aspirated car engine.

It certainly has more in common with superbikes than cars; at 127bhp per litre, the specific output is greater than that of many turbocharged engines.

The high-revving 4498cc V8 has very light internal parts and tiny piston skirts, resulting in low rotation inertia and a 12.5:1 compression ratio. It puts out 562bhp at 9000rpm, 500rpm higher than the 430. That makes it the highest-revving Ferrari road car ever.

It means the 458 Italia will be ferociously fast, and Ferrari claims it will sprint to 62mph in under 3.4sec on its way to a top speed of “over 200mph”.

While advanced engine electronics and lightweight parts underpin the extra performance, this will be the first mid-engined application of Ferrari’s direct injection fuel system, which appeared first on the front-engined California. It also runs Ferrari’s now-traditional flat-plane crankshaft.

The 458’s engine will be one of the most flexible in Ferrari’s history, too, with 398lb ft of torque arriving at 6000rpm. While that sounds peaky, it’s only two-thirds of the way through the 458’s rev range, and over 80 per cent (318lb ft) is available from 3250rpm.

The direct fuel injection has also helped cut CO2 emissions, producing a claimed 320g/km of CO2, even though it is faster and produces significantly more power than the 483bhp F430 and the 508bhp 430 Scuderia.

Dual-clutch ’box

Ferrari learned a lot developing the seven-speed dual-clutch gearbox for the California and it has had to do even more development to fit the unit into the 458 Italia’s engine bay, under the curvaceous glasshouse.

The dual-clutch unit from the California has been modified with different ratios and now shifts even faster than the 430 Scuderia’s 0.06sec. The gearbox’s shift style is likely to be slightly more aggressive than the California’s.

The E-Diff differential and the F1-Trac skid control system have long been the flagship carryover technologies from Formula 1, but the 458 Italia takes them even further and adds another piece of F1-derived technology to the brakes.

Instead of using individual ECUs for the E-Diff and F1-Trac, the 458 Italia has one ECU to control both (as well as the ABS system), resulting in streamlined processing and communication. Ferrari claims a 32 per cent increase in acceleration over the F430 (itself no slouch) out of corners.

The brakes feature a new system called ‘prefill’. When the driver’s foot lifts off the throttle, the pistons in the calipers move the pads towards the discs; that helps to reduce the stopping distance from 62mph to just 32.5 metres.

Aluminium chassis

Ferrari has used its experience from designing the 430 Scuderia’s suspension to create the 458 Italia’s double wishbone front set-up and multi-link rear end, all bolted directly to the aluminium chassis. It’s been developed with the help of Michael Schumacher, who was spotted testing the car.

Ferrari has close ties to aluminium specialist Alcoa, which has built a factory near Modena to produce chassis for the firm. The 458 Italia’s frame uses ideas from both the 430 Scuderia and the Mille Chili concept car.

It uses more advanced bonding techniques than the 430 did, along with manufacturing processes more in line with the aero industry.

F1 wind tunnel

While the 458 was designed by Pininfarina, the shape has been developed using Ferrari’s F1 wind tunnel. The bases of the black intakes in the front bumper deform at speed, closing up the intakes and reducing drag. These intakes also provide downforce and feed air though the radiators ahead of the front wheels.

The car’s shape makes air curve around the cabin and run over the integrated tail spoiler. The flat undertray enhances the effects of the rear diffuser to create 140kg of downforce at 125mph.

Inside, the 458 Italia will take the opportunity created by the more luxurious California to become the sportiest V8 in the family. Ferrari says the steering wheel and dashboard are “new innovations in production cars”; expect a development of the firm’s wheel-mounted manettino switch.

The 458 will be built alongside the California in a new production facility at Maranello.

The car will be launched at the Frankfurt motor show next month and is expected to go on sale in the UK next spring. It will be more expensive than the F430, so expect prices to start at around 150,000.
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Old 07-28-2009, 12:25 PM
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I'm going to have to go against the grain and express my disappointment with the F458. In my opinion, it's just as inelegant and strangely proportioned as it's two immediate predecessors and the California. Ferrari haven't managed to produce a properly good looking car since the F355 all the way back in 1994.
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Old 07-28-2009, 12:33 PM
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Why, oh why do all Ferraris have faces only a mother could love? The rear is pretty meh as well... but overall, it looks much sleeker and light-footed than the F430, which is more than a welcome change. And the 0-100km/h time is abso-blimmin'-lutely mad... 3.4s?! That makes it similar to the Enzo not only in the looks department!
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Old 07-28-2009, 12:36 PM
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I respect your opinion but what is wrong proportions wise in the profile shot above? I see perfection on wheels.
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Old 07-28-2009, 12:46 PM
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I can do without the ridiculous-looking headlamp housing though.
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Old 07-28-2009, 12:49 PM
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I respect your opinion but what is wrong proportions wise in the profile shot above? I see perfection on wheels.
I respect your opinion as well, but for me, I find that the rear end is considerably too high (much like the California), the bulbous rear haunches are overdone, and the criss crossing crease lines on the side don't work. Also, I think the triple exhaust manages to look both cheap and vulgar. It's almost like someone saw what Ferrari's used to look like and decided to copy them, somewhat inaccurately.

The car as a whole isn't any more or less offensive than the F430, but it's certainly no great beauty.
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Old 07-28-2009, 01:06 PM
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You are referring to details now, which I agree are questionable. Before you said the proportions are wrong, something I cannot agree with.

Interior shot:


The first image of the new Ferrari 458 Italia’s interior has been released, revealing a minimal, avant-garde style coupled with F1-derived driver information systems.

The new car, which will replace the 430 when it goes on sale next year, does away with indicator and wiper stalks, replacing them with buttons mounted on the steering wheel.

The indicators switches are on either side of the boss, while the wiper controls sit above the five-position manettino switch. The lights are still operated by a rotary control to the left of the wheel, but the high/dip beam switch is on the wheel, below the left indicator switch.

The wheel also contains the engine start button and the button for the suspension damper settings, which will operate in a similar way to the current 430 Scuderia. The manettino - the red switch on the right of the wheel - is also from the Scuderia, with that car’s five options

The 458 Italia is capable of telling the driver when the brakes, tyres and engine are at the optimum operating temperature. Called virtual race engineer, a display in the dash to the left of the rev counter shows a schematic of the car, and components change colour according to temperature. Yellow means the temperatures aren’t high enough, green is the perfect temperature and red means the car is too hot.

This system is from the 599XX, the experimental car unveiled at this year’s Geneva show, and works when the car is in Race mode.

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Old 07-28-2009, 01:07 PM
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I'm not liking the Prius headlights that stretch nearly to the windshield. The black grille area looks cheesy and unfinished somehow. The side is not bad. The taillights look like an afterthought.

I'd take the Gallardo...
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Old 07-28-2009, 01:34 PM
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I'd take the Gallardo...
So would I. I'm not a big Gallardo fan, but it looks a lot better than this IMO.
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Old 07-28-2009, 01:43 PM
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But is it all about showing off or about crude performance and technology as well? The Gallardo is not quite as advanced and fast as the new F458. And the Ferrari is not necessarily the ugliest car on Earth either. So?
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