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Old 12-03-2017, 05:00 AM
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i think the highlander has always had a larger wheelbase than the RX. They same may be the case here since the wheelbase hasnt changed.

Nevertheless, agreed, integrity should be fine. This is Toyota not bloody GM.
RX and Highlander are exact same wheelbase and length. This is 4 in longer than both.
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Old 12-04-2017, 12:58 AM
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I am corrected. The First and Second Generation Highlander has a longer wheelbase than the RX. Incidentally, the second and third generation wheelbases are the same. The third gen RX now shares the 109.8 inch wheelbase and yet the Highlander looks so much bigger.

What are we talking about here.
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Old 12-04-2017, 09:45 AM
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It's platform mates with the Highlander...which already accommodates a third row. So yeah they actually did plan for the platform to handle a third-row from the get-go. Have we seen specs? I'd imagine this now dimensionally is identical to the Highlander, so hardly makes the integrity of the vehicle doubtful...
Then why just stretch out the trunk and not the wheelbase? That throws the weight distribution completely off and makes the seats pretty useless. Stretching out a trunk requires very little effort from an engineering standpoint. Stretching the wheelbase would require a much more sophisticated redo.

No, this is the equivalent of adding a room over a garage versus pouring in a new foundation for an addition. They went cheap. If they planned on this from the beginning, they cut some serious corners. But seriously though, if this platform was always going to have a planned "longer" version, then why did crude mules start popping up after the new model debuted? That makes no sense.

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Old 12-04-2017, 02:14 PM
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They had to stretch the cargo area to accommodate headroom for the 3rd row. It's not like they extended it a lot. Just enough so that a head would fit. This is a useless 3 row crossover. That said, I happen to like its look over the standard RX. I'd stop making the standard RX and offer this one in 2 and 3 row guises. Stretching the wheelbase would NOT have been a big engineering feat.
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Old 12-04-2017, 02:42 PM
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They had to stretch the cargo area to accommodate headroom for the 3rd row. It's not like they extended it a lot. Just enough so that a head would fit. This is a useless 3 row crossover. That said, I happen to like its look over the standard RX. I'd stop making the standard RX and offer this one in 2 and 3 row guises. Stretching the wheelbase would NOT have been a big engineering feat.
It would have been a big engineering feat, given that Toyota does not waste resources. This 3 row RX will sell, and will have cost less to develop than stretching it. More than that what company in their right mind would modify an old platform, that has half a life-cycle left? Next generation RX will get TNGA platform, and could be even be RWD based replacing both the FWD RX and BOF GX. Note the the Prado (Toyota version of GX) is available as 5 and 7 seats (that fold flat on the floor, not into because BOF).
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Old 12-04-2017, 03:26 PM
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Then why just stretch out the trunk and not the wheelbase? That throws the weight distribution completely off and makes the seats pretty useless. Stretching out a trunk requires very little effort from an engineering standpoint. Stretching the wheelbase would require a much more sophisticated redo.

No, this is the equivalent of adding a room over a garage versus pouring in a new foundation for an addition. They went cheap. If they planned on this from the beginning, they cut some serious corners. But seriously though, if this platform was always going to have a planned "longer" version, then why did crude mules start popping up after the new model debuted? That makes no sense.
You're oddly passionate about how Toyota and Lexus engineered a three-row family crossover. Can you chill a bit?
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oddly passionate
To be fair, this is car enthusiast forum.... ;)
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Old 12-04-2017, 10:00 PM
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To be fair, this is car enthusiast forum.... ;)
yes, dear. i just mean we sometimes stretch that out to weird places...like this. I'm also basing it on the tone of those comments I was referencing.
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Old 12-04-2017, 10:17 PM
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yes, dear. i just mean we sometimes stretch that out to weird places...like this. I'm also basing it on the tone of those comments I was referencing.
I understand your point, but I can sort of understand people getting a little bent out of shape about Toyota. Doesn't the underlying Highlander/RX platform essentially date back to 2000? (and I don't mean "the 2000s," as in 2009) One does wonder how much stretching the platform can tolerate w/o sacrificing chassis rigidity and how much additional bracing Toyota had to add to make the models comply w/ modern safety standards.

Recycling an old platform is certainly cost-effective and leads to a highly reliable product (ideally). But it can also be read as crass and... cheap.
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Old 12-04-2017, 10:59 PM
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the platform already underpins larger vehicles like the Avalon. It's unrealistic to expect a new platform until a new generation of the car arrives. this is more than enough to get the current gen RX to the end of its life cycle while adding some sales that might have gone to Infiniti. Even the SWB RX could've been repackaged to make it a capable 7 seater, as in the Highlander, so adding 4 inches anywhere can only make it more spacious and capable as a 3 row SUV. I don't think excellent torsional rigidity is high on the wish list for the target demo, although i can't see how that's been sacrificed given the length was added behind the rear axle.
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