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Old 10-19-2016, 09:08 PM
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It'll be badged a 2017 model, not a 2018, meaning it'll probably debut at LA and go on sale in December:

https://vpic.nhtsa.dot.gov/mid/home/displayfile/32835
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Old 10-19-2016, 09:15 PM
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Is that VIN information only required of new models or is it for every model year? If the latter, this indicates nothing.
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Old 10-19-2016, 10:08 PM
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Is that VIN information only required of new models or is it for every model year? If the latter, this indicates nothing.
The VIN changed from KE to KF, which means this VIN is for the all-new model, not the current one. The fifth character only needs to be changed for a new model, not a new model year.
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Old 10-21-2016, 06:30 PM
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I wish Mazda would invest in Panoramic Sunroofs. It's kind of shocking to me the CX-9 does not have one given the class it's in.
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Old 10-21-2016, 08:06 PM
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I wish Mazda would invest in Panoramic Sunroofs. It's kind of shocking to me the CX-9 does not have one given the class it's in.
It is a good looking feature, but glass is much heavier than steel and not as strong. I think the lack of the panoramic roofs is rooted in the design of the cars, which are using all sorts of innovations to lower the overall weight. Also, the Sky-Active engines are not at the top of the power/torque curves either. So keeping the overall weight down helps with efficiency of the powertrain. I think a higher MPG is definitely a stronger selling point than panoramic sunroof.
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Old 10-27-2016, 04:57 PM
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Official teaser for the LA Auto Show:

http://www.motor1.com/news/126952/20...cx5-teaser-la/
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Old 10-27-2016, 05:45 PM
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For such a small company they're quick on the product cycles. Compare with how long it took GM to redo the Equinox.
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Old 10-28-2016, 12:18 AM
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For such a small company they're quick on the product cycles...
More likely, quick restyle cycles. Mazda has good platforms so there is no need to reinvent the wheel. However, being a small, autonomous (for the moment) automaker, they need to keep interest high to stay alive. A complete reskinning makes more sense than a complete reinvention.
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Old 10-28-2016, 10:56 AM
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More likely, quick restyle cycles. Mazda has good platforms so there is no need to reinvent the wheel. However, being a small, autonomous (for the moment) automaker, they need to keep interest high to stay alive. A complete reskinning makes more sense than a complete reinvention.
And yet its taking Hyundai and VW years to get a car from concept to production. Sometimes smaller is better. Mazda has gotten on trend cars out quickly instead of talking about them for 3 years like VW.
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Old 10-28-2016, 01:28 PM
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And yet its taking Hyundai and VW years to get a car from concept to production. Sometimes smaller is better. Mazda has gotten on trend cars out quickly instead of talking about them for 3 years like VW.
Simply stated, Mazda is not large enough to go it alone indefinitely. For example, they are doing nothing with electrification probably because they don't have the money. Despite its competence, the Mazda6 is a sales failure. At some point, I suspect Toyota will acquire Mazda. It will be a miracle if Mazda is a stand-alone maker in 5 years.
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