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Old 08-21-2017, 07:10 AM
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Honda has a new assembly plant that has an initial capacity of 12,000/year coming online in 2019. I guess this is for the new Acura lineup or that FR GT/S3000. Acura sedans/SUV will stay AWD, but that does not mean FF as the Japanese media seem to hate the RLX. Honda thinks RWD is for Sports cars.

RDX is an important vehicle in this plan as it will be the first product of this new scenario. It appears that the RDX will get a 3rd row as some say the spyshots look bigger than the current generation. Lexus realized that the RX needed a 3rd row and decided to make a quick hack job in order to add a 3rd row. Expect a 2 motor hybrid version alongside an AWD version as well as the classic FWD.

ILX is likely going to be a Civic Si with an Acura badge, but it might be made in Swindon, to keep the workers busy.

MDX is likely to go upmarket, or Acura launches a SUV above the MDX that would be built on a new platform for Acura. Same platform as the new RLX.

Anna, OH is building the new v6 and it would be DOHC and would use a timing chain. No it will not be the NSX motor (too expensive). Perhaps they might reconsider a v8 for the NSX as it would allow for more power than the current NSX motor and would be cheaper? Acura is not making the same mistake as the current NSX in regards to improvements.

RLX is probably going into some sporty alternative to the S class with likely a new platform or is this going to be a new model? Only time will tell. Like I said, the Japanese media hate the RLX and it is discontinued in China, so perhaps a new way is needed to bring this model to be competitive. Perhaps, not making it like an S class/7 series is a smart idea. Plan is to use the new v6 with a TMU and eSH-AWD, however there might be a EV and FCEV version as well.
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Old 08-21-2017, 07:12 AM
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http://www.autonews.com/article/2017...ina-world-view

An article explaining why Honda thinks China is an important market but the US is still important as well. Chinese consumers love cars that look really gaudy and tasteless in the name of prestige, but the American consumers want practical cars. If China got their way, the current Civic would have been a repeat of the 9th gen MMC civic, so it was America that won out with the fastback design. I think eventually you will see the CDX show up in the US as some in Torrance really want to sell it.
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Old 08-21-2017, 01:11 PM
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...Chinese consumers love cars that look really gaudy and tasteless...If China got their way, the current Civic would have been a repeat of the 9th gen MMC civic....
That makes no sense. The current Civic is gaudy and the previous one was much less so.
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Old 08-22-2017, 12:07 AM
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Honda's research indicates that China likes sedans that do not have a fastback look to them. I guess they like cars with lots of rear headroom in exchange for less aerodynamics. I would think gaudy would be something like the original Accord PHEV that looked ugly to most.
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Old 08-22-2017, 12:23 AM
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TLX will continue on with FWD as there is not enough assembly space for their lineup to be AWD based.
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Old 08-22-2017, 02:59 PM
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MDX is likely to go upmarket, or Acura launches a SUV above the MDX that would be built on a new platform for Acura. Same platform as the new RLX.
I'll believe the existence of a dedicated Acura platform when I see it...
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Old 08-23-2017, 05:59 PM
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TLX will continue on with FWD as there is not enough assembly space for their lineup to be AWD based.
The TLX has AWD versions today. So there is plenty of room.
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Old 08-24-2017, 03:14 AM
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Honda's research indicates that China likes sedans that do not have a fastback look to them. I guess they like cars with lots of rear headroom in exchange for less aerodynamics. I would think gaudy would be something like the original Accord PHEV that looked ugly to most.
"Gaudy" (from dictionary.com) "...brilliantly or excessively showy...cheaply showy in a tasteless way; flashy...tawdry, loud; conspicuous, obvious..."

The current Civic as I see it is cheaply showy in a tasteless way as I see it. It has great shape, proportions, and stance, but the details are excessively showy, loud, and conspicuous.
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Old 08-25-2017, 07:48 AM
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http://vtec.net/forums/one-message?m...mber=1#1330467

One person on ToV is saying that Honda will change the lease deals for the 2018 Accord, but not sure if this is fact. The goal is to use true market numbers on the money value and the residual of the car in a 3 year period. This would likely be a less subsidized or Honda is doing away from subsidized leases. Honda is getting tired of their lease deals and are losing money on these 199/month lease deals. Future lease deals might be market value lease deals so it could be more expensive and it would probably conceded the sales crown to Toyota. Apparently, other manufacturers are looking into this so this could mean the end of the cheap lease deals.

It is however a buyers market for lightly used cars as there is a huge quantity of nice CPO Honda's and other cars out there for sale. Then again, Honda has pretty good resale value and residuals, but this is an attempt to boost residual value.

Could this be a way for Honda to add capacity at their plants as Honda is trying to add a few new models and those will need a factory (RLX replacement, MDX, Sports cars, etc).
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Old 08-26-2017, 02:45 AM
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Thats a decent idea until it drives buyers over to the camry or sonata. It also reeks of typical honda arrogance. Then again the accord is #1 for retail sales and the car is designed and specified to be such.
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