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Old 04-17-2019, 06:55 PM
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There's no real competition to the highlander for the given customer base. The cross-shopping rivals, pilot and the pathfinder are no match.

They could **** on the roof as a feature and sell more than the other two.
I don't know, I'm starting to see a ton of Ascents around here...that and the new Explorer are sure to make a dent in Toyota's bottom line.
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There's no real competition to the highlander for the given customer base. The cross-shopping rivals, pilot and the pathfinder are no match.

They could **** on the roof as a feature and sell more than the other two.
I don't know what customer base you're speaking of but i'd assume it's cross shopped with the explorer, which outsold it in 2018.
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Yeah but the new Explorer is absolutely awful design-wise.
I think the Pilot and maybe Hyundai/Kia are the real rivals. The Telluride is the best-looking, but I think the highlander interior kills it, and that's what shoppers in this segment really care about.
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Yeah but the new Explorer is absolutely awful design-wise.
I think the Pilot and maybe Hyundai/Kia are the real rivals. The Telluride is the best-looking, but I think the highlander interior kills it, and that's what shoppers in this segment really care about.
Most typical buyers of these things do not care about design; they care about features, price, and practicality. To them, it looks almost the same as the old one, which sold a ton, and I bet many will love the new interior, tablet infotainment screen and all. Sales figures show that buyers prefer the Explorer and Highlander over the Pilot, so I don't see that changing. In Calendar Year 2018: Explorer sold 250, 690; Highlander sold 244, 511; Pilot trailed far behind in fourth at 159,615. Third was the Grand Cherokee at 240,696. http://carsalesbase.com/us-car-sales...d-suv-segment/

For example, CarScoops did a comparison recently against the Explorer, Pilot, Telluride, and current Highlander. The Explorer won:

https://www.carscoops.com/2019/04/se...e-competition/
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Interesting how they went back in design and modified the pre-facelift current gen
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Interesting how they went back in design and modified the pre-facelift current gen
yup, those fu*king Chads at toyota
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Coming now to Western Europe as well as from 2021, as Hybrid only (in a similar move to the Camry); I guess giving customers a 7 seat option above the RAV-4 is not useless, and has probably bigger market potential than the (in Europe not that popular body shape of sedan) Camry.

Also, being probably the most spacious "non premium" SUV with a proven hybrid drive train should make it attractive to a few customers. Let's not forget, most large Hybrid SUVs (all of them plug ins though, with the usual advantages but also disadvantages) will be a lot more expensive;
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I had no idea that the Camry was hybrid-only in Europe. They still a ton of non-hybrid ones here in the US.

Do Europeans have much use for such a large SUV? The Highlander is popular in the US, but it's pretty big, even by our standards.
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Europeans are well known for compact efficient cars, large SUVs are not a very common sight.
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Europeans are well known for compact efficient cars, large SUVs are not a very common sight.
Whilst the common idea is that everyone drives a small hatchback, large SUVs have become quite popular (not the gargantuans like an Escalade, but the XC90/Touareg/X5 category is quite popular (of course, especially in cities), as are the one size smaller (at least in terms of prestige) 7 seat SUVs like the Kodiaq or Tiguan Allspace, in itself anything but compact cars. I mean even a Skoda Superb or Opel Insignia, in itself popular fleet cars, are the size of a 1990ies BMW 7 series or AUdi A8
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