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Old 01-16-2014, 12:16 AM
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The Honda folks might claim they have a pick up to!

Price is everything. Are Chevy and Ford prices are heading up faster than Ram just to create market space for these?
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Old 01-16-2014, 01:23 AM
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I doubt Ford will rest on its laurels. They probably already have a new Ranger in the pipeline, and are waiting to green light further development on whether the GM pickups have a pulse, and the success of the aluminum F150. My guess is 2015 will see a Ford offering (as a 2016).
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Old 01-17-2014, 04:56 AM
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I think there is a need for this in the market; however, the new F150 REALLY changed the game...a 700lb weight reduction has to be unprecedented within the last 30 years or cars, regardless of the category.... That weight allowing it to be a cafe contribution product means the fuel economy is going to be stellar....the Canyon is going to need to be REALLY compelling to compete....I know it's full sized versus mid sized - but a comparable priced full sized, with superior fuel economy and no compromise on utility.....why buy the mid sized?
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....the Canyon is going to need to be REALLY compelling to compete....I know it's full sized versus mid sized - but a comparable priced full sized, with superior fuel economy and no compromise on utility.....why buy the mid sized?
Agreed! That is precisely why the midsized market fizzled. They didn't get significantly better mileage nor were they especially better priced. The Canyon/Colorado look good, but I doubt they have anything game changing to bring to the market. Their arrival is "Old GM" alive and well.

If the Ranger returns, I'd love to see it with a turbodiesel 8 speed, a gas 8 speed hybrid, and a Ranger Energi
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Old 01-18-2014, 11:10 AM
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If the Ranger returns, I'd love to see it with a turbodiesel 8 speed, a gas 8 speed hybrid, and a Ranger Energi
That'd be really interesting!
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Old 01-19-2014, 08:22 PM
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I know it's full sized versus mid sized - but a comparable priced full sized, with superior fuel economy and no compromise on utility.....why buy the mid sized?
I strongly doubt they will be comparably priced. There will be some price overlap, sure, but they won't remotely have the same feature set. An F150 crew cab with 4wd starts at 40k, and that's with zero options. You can easily load it up, and its not even the top trim, for over 45k. Unless GM is crazy (and they could be eg the Cadillac ELR), the Canyon should max out at 35k.
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Old 01-20-2014, 06:23 PM
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If the Ranger returns, I'd love to see it with a turbodiesel 8 speed, a gas 8 speed hybrid, and a Ranger Energi
Ain't happening. Now the 3.2 diesel/six speed auto could easily happen given the full size transit specification. Alongside the 2.7 in NA form.
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Ain't happening. Now the 3.2 diesel/six speed auto could easily happen given the full size transit specification. Alongside the 2.7 in NA form.
At some point pickups WILL have to go hybrid and plug in hybrid for CAFE
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2021 AT4 and Denali. I assume the standard trims will have a similar facelift:



https://www.carscoops.com/2020/01/20...vamped-denali/
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