[MCLAREN P_10]

What you say is true, the P13 will be a fron t mid-engined 2+ sportscar. My sources say the reason for the front mid-engine layout is to make sure as to not take sales from the MP4-12 C coupe.cabriolet! McLaren and Ferrari neither need nor want a 2+2 4 door saloon/coupe, these plans make the company more pedestrian and with the racing pedigree that both companies have it would take away form the companies heritage in racing! In some cases a 4 door model can improve the image of the company such is the case with Aston Martin Rapide, Maserati's Quattroporte, and Porsche Panamera! All 3 of these firms have great racing heritage, but when it comes to the case of sales its more of the popular idea of offering a full range than keeping it pure! With Ferrari and McLaren both of these firms are currently running in Formula 1 and alot of there technology will be showcased there as well as on the roadcars. In thsi case mcLaren would do best to stay away form a 4 door model since Ferrari being there chief rival does not have one, this would allow them to focus on performence models compared to pedestrian models.

UPDATE~!!!!!

My sources have just given me news that Caterham are working on a range of models with plans for a direct competitor to the Ferrari California. My sources say this new Caterham is planned to use a aluminum spaceframe and a as yet upnamed sourced V-8( rumor has it a Cosworth tuned Mustang 5.4 liter V-8 that would be good for as much as 550 BHP. My sources say this mdoel would form the basis of a new model range push from Caterham, that would likely see the arrival of a Lotus Espirit competitor currently codenamed as the Caterham Blade. My sources sya this model is a front mid-engined supercar powered by a Coswroth tuned supercharged 5.4 liter Ford Mustang GT500 engine that would produce no less than 620 BHP. My source say that the plan is to build sucha supercar to compliment the Caterham /Lotus 7, while giving the company a direct link to the Team Lotus Formula1 team whos owner also owns Caterham Sportscars. My sources say that Tony Fernandes is looking for away to capitlaize on the link between his Formula 1 team and the Caterham roadcars. My sources sya that Cosworth wants to devleop the crate motor supercharged 5.4 liter V-8 to trump most of the compeition from Mclaren, Ferrari, Lotus, and the planned Inifinit GT-R Red Bull are currently helping with. Other work has stareted on a planned successor to the Caterham 21, which will likely be a mroe extreme sportscar than the old model, as I have heard it this model would likely use a Ford of Europe Focus RS engine that would likely be retuned by Cosworth to improve performence for this sportscar.


As I mentioned above Inifinit has started work on there very own GTR based supercar. My soruces say that Infiniti are looking to capatolize on there link to red Bull racing are are currently courting the idea of having Adrian Newey design the aerodynamics to make sure its leagues away from the Nissan GT-R! As i have heard it the plan is to use carbon fiber and aluminum for the body panels of this new supercar, whiel udner the hood are talks of a twin-turbo IPL 5.6 liter V-8 that is currently being developed to produce as much as 600 BHP that would send the power to all 4 wheels! My sources suggest this model will likely be along the lines of a Bentley Contential GT Speed in terms of performence. My sources say it will feature a 2 seat cockpit with a rear bench instead of a seat. This engine would be sending power to a 7 speed sequetial shift transmission. My sources sya that a early prorotype has begun testing in France at the Renault world headquarters since Nissan/Infiniti are currently cleaning up in Japan form the tsunami and earthquake. As i'm to understand it if this model goes over well Inifiniti could very well get a second model that will bea geared towards a even mroe extreme supercar, but only time will tell at this point!

More updates to come soon enough, stay tuned~!!!!

[chef211]

Originally Posted by MCLAREN P_10

What you say is true, the P13 will be a fron t mid-engined 2+ sportscar. My sources say the reason for the front mid-engine layout is to make sure as to not take sales from the MP4-12 C coupe.cabriolet! McLaren and Ferrari neither need nor want a 2+2 4 door saloon/coupe, these plans make the company more pedestrian and with the racing pedigree that both companies have it would take away form the companies heritage in racing! In some cases a 4 door model can improve the image of the company such is the case with Aston Martin Rapide, Maserati's Quattroporte, and Porsche Panamera! All 3 of these firms have great racing heritage, but when it comes to the case of sales its more of the popular idea of offering a full range than keeping it pure! With Ferrari and McLaren both of these firms are currently running in Formula 1 and alot of there technology will be showcased there as well as on the roadcars. In thsi case mcLaren would do best to stay away form a 4 door model since Ferrari being there chief rival does not have one, this would allow them to focus on performence models compared to pedestrian models.

UPDATE~!!!!!

My sources have just given me news that Caterham are working on a range of models with plans for a direct competitor to the Ferrari California. My sources say this new Caterham is planned to use a aluminum spaceframe and a as yet upnamed sourced V-8( rumor has it a Cosworth tuned Mustang 5.4 liter V-8 that would be good for as much as 550 BHP. My sources say this mdoel would form the basis of a new model range push from Caterham, that would likely see the arrival of a Lotus Espirit competitor currently codenamed as the Caterham Blade. My sources sya this model is a front mid-engined supercar powered by a Coswroth tuned supercharged 5.4 liter Ford Mustang GT500 engine that would produce no less than 620 BHP. My source say that the plan is to build sucha supercar to compliment the Caterham /Lotus 7, while giving the company a direct link to the Team Lotus Formula1 team whos owner also owns Caterham Sportscars. My sources say that Tony Fernandes is looking for away to capitlaize on the link between his Formula 1 team and the Caterham roadcars. My sources sya that Cosworth wants to devleop the crate motor supercharged 5.4 liter V-8 to trump most of the compeition from Mclaren, Ferrari, Lotus, and the planned Inifinit GT-R Red Bull are currently helping with. Other work has stareted on a planned successor to the Caterham 21, which will likely be a mroe extreme sportscar than the old model, as I have heard it this model would likely use a Ford of Europe Focus RS engine that would likely be retuned by Cosworth to improve performence for this sportscar.


As I mentioned above Inifinit has started work on there very own GTR based supercar. My soruces say that Infiniti are looking to capatolize on there link to red Bull racing are are currently courting the idea of having Adrian Newey design the aerodynamics to make sure its leagues away from the Nissan GT-R! As i have heard it the plan is to use carbon fiber and aluminum for the body panels of this new supercar, whiel udner the hood are talks of a twin-turbo IPL 5.6 liter V-8 that is currently being developed to produce as much as 600 BHP that would send the power to all 4 wheels! My sources suggest this model will likely be along the lines of a Bentley Contential GT Speed in terms of performence. My sources say it will feature a 2 seat cockpit with a rear bench instead of a seat. This engine would be sending power to a 7 speed sequetial shift transmission. My sources sya that a early prorotype has begun testing in France at the Renault world headquarters since Nissan/Infiniti are currently cleaning up in Japan form the tsunami and earthquake. As i'm to understand it if this model goes over well Inifiniti could very well get a second model that will bea geared towards a even mroe extreme supercar, but only time will tell at this point!

More updates to come soon enough, stay tuned~!!!!

So the mysterious Infiniti, that Red Bull are working on is the GT-R based supercar, any rumor about how much it is going to cost. Why is Caterham going after the Ferrari California and Lotus Esprit.

[MCLAREN P_10]

Yes, the Red Bull Racing tie-up with Infiniti are planning a supercar developed on the Nissan GT-R chassis, though with a IPL tuned twin-turbo 5.6 liter V-8 driving all 4 wheels and good for as mcuha s 600 BHP.

Caterham is targeting the Lotus for the fact that the company sued Team Lotus for the use of the name after only 1 season in Formula 1, and with Caterham having a direct link to Lotus Tony Fernandes bought the firm just incase they were forced to change the name and this way they could continue to license the Lotus namepate awhiel longer. But Caterham is gearing up a new range of models that will target Lotus mor ehead on than before, and plans for the California competitor is a much needed plan since the cancellation of the Caterham 21 sportscar in the 1990's! Now the new firm is looking for a more sportier image with ther elinke to the Team Lotus Formula 1 team and who wouldn't want to get there nameplate ina better position!

Pics today show that Bugatti has been devleoping a SuperSport style model, this prototype is stated to me by my sorurces to be a Grand Sport, which wcould carry the name plate Grand Prix. Which as I have heard will produce as much as 1099 BHP, which though its not a gain o f 199 BHP over the base mdoel this bump will make this models topspeed reach to as much as 255 MPH, which will make it the fastest roadster none the less! My source say that though th e prototype sports the twin stacks on the roof, the production mdoel will change this for new air intakes, though it will nto take the NACA ducts, the new air intakes will blend better into the roof than previously thought. My sources say that this model wil reatin the removeable roof by Webasto, the air flow on this hypercar will be much improved over the Grand Sport. My sources say the aerodynamics will be tweaked to the level of the SuperSport, though less aggressive with fewer opeings since this model will not target 268 MPH. My sources say that we could see this model offically reveale dat the Bugatti Event next month in Molsheim, France.

I have also gotten some news about the Bugatti 16C, my sources say that Bugatti has signed off on such a project due to nto having the time to plan for anything other than a quick fix Veyron successor, which the company still is sometimes off from revealing. My sources say a major reason for all the mis-direction happens to be that Buagtti has desided to change the name and the overall dimension of this super luxury saloon. My sources say that we can expect a size not much of from that of the Bentley Mulsanne. My sources say that though this model will use a aluminum spaceframe sourced from Audi, it will again be considered bespoke, thanks to its carbon fiber floor pan. My sources say that we can expect more legroom front and rear that will make this model even more luxurious than the concept! Early plans call fro a model that will make use of Bentley's craftsmen in Crewe for wood , as well as porcelain experts Königliche Porzellan-Manufaktur of Berlin , as well as the host of aluminum and bare carbon fiber, add to this leather and suede! My sources say that if all goes well the 16C will get a Hermes Edition, a Pur Sang/Sang Noir/Bleu Sang, the Atlantic coupe, the Atalanta cabriolet,a SuperSports model as well as one off projects that will showcase the companies personalization programm! My sources say that the 1000 BHP mark is not far off form thsi mdoel as of right now, the switch from the quad-turbo to twin-supercharged 8.0 liter W-16, saw alot of changes to this engine that few truly know about! Amoungst these changes was the lose of so many radiators, thanks to the twin-supercharging the need for 10 has gone down to 4, whcih will see 2 actually for the engine itself, while 2 will be made for the superchargers intercoolers. Amougst these changes was the creation of a new rear whele bias 4 wheel drive system, that will be able to handle all the extra power and torque! My sources say the engine will retain all its internals, though likely to add a hybrid drive system that VAG has already devleoped for a more mass produced range.!

Work continues on the Aerolithe hypercar that will be a true successor to the Veyron, that as of right now is looking likely to arrive in 2014 with as much as 1100 BHP in abse for as 1250+ BHP in SuperSport trim. My sources suggest that this model will about some 700-900 lbs lighter than the Veyron SuperSport, thanks to the use of a more convential aluminum spaceframe that is currently being devleoepd with the help of Lamborghini! My sources say the carbon fiber monocoque will be designed, developed and produced by VAG Motorsports that also falls under the control of Wolfgang Durheimer, this models body will use mostly carbon fiber thanks to the companies new found level of crafting it for the Grand Sport and SuperSport, and we will likely see this continue on with the Aerolithe hypercar.

More news to come, stay tuned~!!!

[63Bonneville]

I didn't know about this news with Caterham, and if they plan to expand and move forward, more power to 'em! It'll be more competition in the arena that'll bring out the best.

I could see where they would want to update and refine the Bugatti 16C Gallibier even more, as stately as the production-close concept is, for, I did think that it could be even longer than it is, for being the top-tier class that it is, and also account for even more interior room. The current 16C concept is at 211" in length, which falls an inch or so shorter than a Rolls-Royce Ghost regular-wheelbase (not that this is tiny), and I feel that it would be better at at least the Bentley Mulsanne length of 219".

[MCLAREN P_10]

I loved the idea of a new range of Caterham models, lord knwos the English sportscar business can always use an extra face! I mean we now have the likes of TVR, Jaguar, Aston martin, McLaren Ascari, Bristol, Bentley, Lotus, , Morgon, and Caterham, whicha re all built in England and are through and through sports and supercar brands! Add to this the none English makes such as Spyker, so its a wide open area for new brands to emerge as well as make full on comebacks


As for the dimensions of the 16C, my sourc es say the concept was base dona long wheelbase verison of the Audi A8 aluminum spaceframe, which made the dimensions minimal as possible. The new 16C will use a overall length closer to the bentley, though slightly shorter, to make sure it retains its performence look and stance. My sources sya expect the styling to evolve rather than be a clean sheet design, and will offer alot of cues from the Veyron. My source say that the new aluminum spaceframe will be a bespoke construction, though it will be base don a larger aluminum spaceframe, the chassis will feature a carbon fiber floorpan. My sources say that the interior will grow to keep pace with the likes of the Maybach 57 and Rolls-Royce Phantom. My sources say it will retain its 5 door notchback styling, as well as its 8 exuast tips. My sources say that some changes on the front hood will include vents at the top of the hood that will extract heat as well as for styling. As for the double piano style opening hood, my sources say it will likely be carried over for the production model, though made larger so the company can keep them, my sources say expect a carbon fiber skin and aluminum frame lids for pedestrian safety and crash worthiness. As my sources have told me this model will feature a 3 piece front end, made up of a left and right front fender and the front bumper, unlike the concept which had it all as 2 pieces the fenders and front bumper( this is namely due to the enlarging of the piano lid openings. My sources say that to make sure this model sheds weight where possible Bugatti engineers are looking into using less aluminum in the body save for the doors and roof. My source say another major reason for the re-design is for Bugatti to return the rearing elephant hood orniment, that will likely pull a Rolls-Royce and hide when the super saloon is parked. My sources say that the reason why they figure this part is do the Bugatti placing 2 radiators in the nose of the 16C, which means there will be a space behind the horseshoe grill whcih will hide it perfectly! As for the hybrid system, Bugatti Chairman Wolfgang Durheimer has pulled a Ferrari Chairman Luca di Montzemolo which says for a hybrid system ina supercar/super luxury saloon, it has to improve performence in both fuel economy and overall performence times. My sources say the Equestian hybrid system has been devleoepd since we first seen the Bentley GT clothed( Atlantic EV) running development cls eto the Molsheim Atelier Headquarters a couple years ago. This system will use a pair of electric motors on the front and rear axle, with small battery packs to give this mdoela full on EV mode, though it will add some weight, my sources say it will likely keep weight low by using carbon fiber for added packaging on this model in the range.

[asrapid]

Originally Posted by MCLAREN P_10

UPDATE~!!!!!

My sources have just given me news that Caterham are working on a range of models with plans for a direct competitor to the Ferrari California. My sources say this new Caterham is planned to use a aluminum spaceframe and a as yet upnamed sourced V-8( rumor has it a Cosworth tuned Mustang 5.4 liter V-8 that would be good for as much as 550 BHP. My sources say this mdoel would form the basis of a new model range push from Caterham, that would likely see the arrival of a Lotus Espirit competitor currently codenamed as the Caterham Blade. My sources sya this model is a front mid-engined supercar powered by a Coswroth tuned supercharged 5.4 liter Ford Mustang GT500 engine that would produce no less than 620 BHP. My source say that the plan is to build sucha supercar to compliment the Caterham /Lotus 7, while giving the company a direct link to the Team Lotus Formula1 team whos owner also owns Caterham Sportscars. My sources say that Tony Fernandes is looking for away to capitlaize on the link between his Formula 1 team and the Caterham roadcars. My sources sya that Cosworth wants to devleop the crate motor supercharged 5.4 liter V-8 to trump most of the compeition from Mclaren, Ferrari, Lotus, and the planned Inifinit GT-R Red Bull are currently helping with. Other work has stareted on a planned successor to the Caterham 21, which will likely be a mroe extreme sportscar than the old model, as I have heard it this model would likely use a Ford of Europe Focus RS engine that would likely be retuned by Cosworth to improve performence for this sportscar.

I hope they choose different engine. Like coyote V8 maybe..5.4 l v8 aluminum engine from ford is bit on heavy side. Maybe even 5.3 l Cammer from roush- yates. Also rumors are that 2013 mustang will get 5. 8 l supercharged version of modular 5.4 l v8 and that will be a last version of that engine. After that is all Coyote versions.

[MCLAREN P_10]

As I have heard it the Cosworth tuning of this engine will improve alot of things on this engine line! I Heard the rumor about the enlarged version of the GT500 engine to 5.8 liters, but I heard it is slated to appear in the likes of the Ford GT successor, but I think it won't happen due to timing, the twin-turbo Eco-Boost Coyote 5.0 liter V-8 is right around the corner, which I believe will be the offical engine of choice for this new model! The Eco-Boost V-8 starting block is the Boss 302 Laguna Seca version of the Coyote V-8, so it will produce more than 440 BHP, add to this the twin-turbo system, we can figure about 580+ BHP right away, I mena look at the Eco-Boost 3.5 liter V-6 its already on par with some V-8s that are on the road today in terms of performence, so its only right that this new V-8 will be good for performence to mach the like sof the Viper V-10.

This morning it became offical that the Ferrari 458 Italia Spider will use the flip up roof base don the one-off roof used on the SuperAmerica 45 , though it will hide away under the engine cover. It will retain its horsepower rating for sure and these 2 part motorskeep the weight a slow as possible without a full on coupe/cabriolet foling hard top! I have heard this roof uses a steelframe with aluminum skin to help keep it light as possible! Rumors already are swirling about a Scuderia style Spider witha carbon fiber skinned version of this roof, but no offical word as of yet! My sources sya that Ferrari are pushing for the 599 successor the F630 to recieve this type of roof for its Barchetta version to kep the weight low as possible. I have heard rumors that this models engine is bein tweaked as we speak to produce no less than 700 BHP with power going to the rear wheels via a Ferrari SuperFast version of the 7 speed duel-clutch transmission from Getreg! My sources say we will see this mdole at Geneva in March of next year and we will likely see several new models at frankfurt! But the biggest news comes late next year, with the arrival of FX70 hypercar, which my sources say will be presented a private event in Marenello, and than we will likely see it at paris if all goes well! Always one for the dramatic Ferrari are tryign to keep news of this model under wraps for now, but rumors swirl about a new V-12, displacing 7.0 liters and good for as much as the rumored 800 BHP. My sources say that this concept has been looked into, but with Ferrari trying to shed weight for the Hy-KERS system, its likely the twin-turbo 5.0 liter V-8 is mor einline with this models reveal and will see this twin-turbo direct injected V-8 produce roughly 800 BHP, and sending power to the rear wheels via a SuperFast version of the Getreg 7 speed duel clutch, though a few sources say that ferrari engineers like the idea of a ISR( Lamborghini Aventador style sequetial shift transmission) that Getreg has started working on since the Aventaor arrived! Either way power will go to the rear wheels only of this carbon fiber hypercar witha trageted weight of as low as 2500 lbs. the engine will use a aluminum block with titanmium and magnesium for much of its internals, and will make use of the now famous Ferrari flat-side Crankshaft with this engine also being a dry sump lubricated to balance this mdoel in cornering!

[MCLAREN P_10]

UPDATE~!!!!! AUDI

My source ssya that Audi are looking to add another varient to the R8 model range, currently being called R8 RS . My sources say that this new model will feature slightly more extreme styling cues, but the biggets feature will likely come frome behind the cockpit. My source say that this mdoel will be a coupe and a cabriolet with power suggested to come from a the Audi TDI twin-turbo 5.2 liter V-10, that will see this model produce as much as 575 BHP, being driven through a faster 7 speed DSG duel clutch transmission! the biggest news is that the company is planning to make this model rear wheel only! Thats right a Audi version fo the 550-2 Balboni coupe and roadster. My sources say that the overall plan is to add this model into production as the final edition before the R8 goes off into the sunset along with its Corperate brother Lamborghini Gallardo. My sources say expect this model to feature aluminum body with alot of bare carbon fiber to showcase the companies motorsportsc tie-up. My sources suggest we could see this varient at either Frankfurt, as aprt of the Aud Pavillion, but no later than at Geneva in March due to the devleopment time thats needed to make sure it sperformenc e figures are up to par for the R8! Also looking toward the future Audi are already talkign about the successor to the R8, currently known as the R10 . My sources currently are suggesting early plans are already started for the successor to the R8, the biggest reason for the numerical change is to spread the gap between the A8 based R8 saloon, and the sportscar. My sources are already talking about plans for a Audi devleoped engine likely a development of there new twin-turbo 4.0 liter V-8 that will be good for as mucha s 545 BHP for the base model and adding several new varients to come along as time progresses including a new faster model to succeed the R8 RS!

My sources also have given em news that Audi are looking into another large leap in the company that will see a large saloon that could carry the name of Horch! This mdoel would likely be a stepping model into Bentley as well as Lamborghini's Estoque which will share aluminum spaceframes with the upcoming Audi A9. My sources are currently saying they are eplanning to have a range topping engine that culd very well be absed on the estoque version of the new Avetandor 6.5 liter V-12, though likely to displace 6.0 liters and be a actual V-12, not a W-12. My sources currently suggest that Bentley is looking for away out of the W-12 so a new V-12 would be most fitting if you ask me for a way to escape it and still retain the performence they are looking for! Likely to lowering the displacement for a more refined performence to luxury ratio!

More news to come on this and more, stay tuned~!!!

[chef211]

Originally Posted by MCLAREN P_10

UPDATE~!!!!! AUDI

My source ssya that Audi are looking to add another varient to the R8 model range, currently being called R8 RS . My sources say that this new model will feature slightly more extreme styling cues, but the biggets feature will likely come frome behind the cockpit. My source say that this mdoel will be a coupe and a cabriolet with power suggested to come from a the Audi TDI twin-turbo 5.2 liter V-10, that will see this model produce as much as 575 BHP, being driven through a faster 7 speed DSG duel clutch transmission! the biggest news is that the company is planning to make this model rear wheel only! Thats right a Audi version fo the 550-2 Balboni coupe and roadster. My sources say that the overall plan is to add this model into production as the final edition before the R8 goes off into the sunset along with its Corperate brother Lamborghini Gallardo. My sources say expect this model to feature aluminum body with alot of bare carbon fiber to showcase the companies motorsportsc tie-up. My sources suggest we could see this varient at either Frankfurt, as aprt of the Aud Pavillion, but no later than at Geneva in March due to the devleopment time thats needed to make sure it sperformenc e figures are up to par for the R8! Also looking toward the future Audi are already talkign about the successor to the R8, currently known as the R10 . My sources currently are suggesting early plans are already started for the successor to the R8, the biggest reason for the numerical change is to spread the gap between the A8 based R8 saloon, and the sportscar. My sources are already talking about plans for a Audi devleoped engine likely a development of there new twin-turbo 4.0 liter V-8 that will be good for as mucha s 545 BHP for the base model and adding several new varients to come along as time progresses including a new faster model to succeed the R8 RS!

My sources also have given em news that Audi are looking into another large leap in the company that will see a large saloon that could carry the name of Horch! This mdoel would likely be a stepping model into Bentley as well as Lamborghini's Estoque which will share aluminum spaceframes with the upcoming Audi A9. My sources are currently saying they are eplanning to have a range topping engine that culd very well be absed on the estoque version of the new Avetandor 6.5 liter V-12, though likely to displace 6.0 liters and be a actual V-12, not a W-12. My sources currently suggest that Bentley is looking for away out of the W-12 so a new V-12 would be most fitting if you ask me for a way to escape it and still retain the performence they are looking for! Likely to lowering the displacement for a more refined performence to luxury ratio!

More news to come on this and more, stay tuned~!!!

Is this the next R8 that your talking about.

http://www.autoblog.com/2011/08/23/i...-next-audi-r8/

It looks very aggressive for a R8 facelift though.

[MCLAREN P_10]

Its not the one I'm speaking about when I'm talking about the R10, thats the varient of the current R8 that I refer to as RS, this model will use th Lamborghini Gallardo 550-2 Balboni chassis as the starting block for a more extreme Audi the facelift only adds to the aerodynamics of this model!