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Old 06-29-2009, 09:28 PM
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Hello everyone and I'm back with huge news for you all, so lets get into it!!!!

UPDATE!!!!

Audi's Quattro GmbH. The new era at Audi means plenty of new high performence models, according to my sources there will be a new RS model line, that will see a twin-turbo version of the Audi 5.2 liter V-10 with as much as 600 BHP for the RS8, RS7, RS5, and the Project Avus supercar. Theres also the RS model for the RS5, RS4 which will use a twin-turbo version of Audi's 4.2 liter V-8 with as much as 500 BHP. Theres also plans for the TT RS which will use a turbocharged in-line 5 displacing as rumored 2.6 liters an wil be good for roughly 350 BHP.

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Old 06-29-2009, 10:58 PM
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Hello everyone and I'm back with huge news for you all, so lets get into it!!!!

UPDATE!!!!

Audi's Quattro GmbH. The new era at Audi means plenty of new high performence models, according to my sources there will be a new RS model line, that will see a twin-turbo version of the Audi 5.2 liter V-10 with as much as 600 BHP for the RS8, RS7, RS5, and the Project Avus supercar. Theres also the RS model for the RS5, RS4 which will use a twin-turbo version of Audi's 4.2 liter V-8 with as much as 500 BHP. Theres also plans for the TT RS which will use a turbocharged in-line 5 displacing as rumored 2.6 liters an wil be good for roughly 350 BHP.
That's a very sweet update in regard to Audi's performance plans!!!

I know that there's a Twin-Turbo V10 in the current RS6, but, to what I understand, that version is not coming the the USDM for the company would rather put it's efforts towards the next-generation A6 line, with the performance RS6 variant to be engineered for the American market from the start. The same, I believe, could be said for the RS variants of the upcoming next-generation A8, as well as the A7, and since the A4 & A5 are current (modular platform with the front-wheels pushed forward), they'll be focused for their RS variants for the USDM, as well.

The mentioned Project Avus supercar is likely the surprise debut for one of the Centennial Celebration, perhaps the finally of the events.

The TT RS was mentioned, too, but this appears to be a slight boost over the current model. There has been talk of Audi kicking around offering the top-end TT RS in the USDM, a couple of reports have surfaced - I hope this is true and a positive decision for American shores is reached, this would be a hot edition for the line-up and the import-tuner market would likely eat this up!

Going on to GM, Chevrolet division, I happen to catch this article in www.motorauthority.com, and it indicated that there is hope for the Z28, top-zoot edition of the new Camaro will reach production, like the decision was reversed for the convertible. GM is essentially sitting on the Z28 edition, and the Camaro is immensely hot in sales (of course, the V6 with 304hp would be a volume leader), so there is hope for the Z28. This is not official news at all, by any means, but was either uttered, or hinted at the nationals in Carlisle, PA, USA, and this would have a supercharged 6.2L LS V8 under it's hood, the same mill from the Cadillac CTS-V. There's a link posted below regarding this report:

http://www.motorauthority.com/camaro...not-to-be.html
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Old 06-30-2009, 01:01 AM
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Audi has no plans to bring the RS model line-up for now. There are talks and rumors of Audi Quattro GmbH planning to come to the USDM with the AVUS model. This model will be built by Quattro GmbH and Audi racing development, this model would be priced above the R8 V-10 and would b designed with classic Auto Union lines. The reason my sources are so keyed in on the AVUS happens to be the fact of the Centennial Door ceil designs for European models, which shows the Auto Union Type D Racer, blended with the Audi R15 LeMans racer. My sources have reveaed to me that this model will use a new DSG transmission as well as 4 wheel drive system. Based around the new Lamborghini aluminum spaceframe, with aluminum and carbon fiber body panels, the 2 seat cockpit will be race derived and more driver focused.

My sources have revealed to me that Aston Martin-Lagonda Chairman and C.E.O. Ulrich Bez has been seen with Wolfgang Bernhard and Dainmler Chairman and C.E.O. Dieter Zetsche. My sources revealed to em that this meeting could ery well have alot to do with Project Romeo and Juliet. According to my sources this meeting could have had alot to do with the next Lagonda concept, as well as the planning for Wolfgang Bernhard to run Lagonda. My sources also say that DAR Investment has bene in tlaks with Daimler AG Board of Directors about possibly selling 20-25% of there shares in Aston Martin-Lagonda. This makes sense namely becuase as a company Daimler AG usually doesn't allow control from outside on projects, and I'm sure they have learned from there McLaren partnership.
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Old 06-30-2009, 01:43 AM
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I was hoping that the RS lineup from Audo would also hit the USDM; maybe for now could mean a definite for later on, I would hope. The current generation of a few wouldn't make it here, I understand, and the current-generation A8 is a lame-duck, with the successor abound, but, I would think that it would arrive stateside first with the A4/A5 line, for all the mule-pics which have been posted as well as all the reports.

It appears that things could be progressing even farther with Project Romeo & Juliet, from that your sources have gathered the Daimler and Aston-Martin/Lagonda CEOs and with Wolfgang Bernhard in tow, as well as a possibility/speculation of a 20-25% acquisition, I'm glad to see matters move forward there!

Only one thing, and I don't mean to post this or ask the same question again, but, taking Project Romeo & Juliet into account, what's going on with Maybach? I seem to get mixed messages where you had reported that it's safe and well in progress with the successors via Project Romeo & Juliet, but another brief writeup and report ,even posted here, indicated that the next-generation 57 & 62 is either on hold or canceled, as well as development for a 51, which was to slot below and perhaps compete with the Bentley Flying Spur and Rolls-Royce Ghost. The report of Maybach hasn't made any major news at all, and could Maybach be moving ahead with successors (it needs to or the brand will die, taking the formidable competition into account, existing and upcoming), be phased out, of maybe, with Project Romeo & Juliet in place, maybe the reborn Lagonda could indirectly be the "new" Maybach. Maybe you could be waiting for more news from sources as I post this.
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Old 06-30-2009, 07:20 AM
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The Maybach is well into development, the reports are false. As we all heard Dieter Zetsche say from his own mouth the Maybach name is safe, hey did not revive the brand to watch it die after just 1 generation of models. As we all have seen there are spy shopts of the next generation 57/62 running as we speak. The Maybach 51 was put on hold, but with Project Romeo and Juliet and Lagonda developing a range of models Maybach is safe. The Maybach 51 has a new nameplate with it slated to be 5.3 meters long, meaning the new name will be Maybach 53, with the fact of a stretched version fo the S-Class chassis This is only the first of the new Maybach line-up, this will be followed by a 2+2 coupe/cabriolet that will be based on the Mercedes SLS/SL aluminum spaceframe that will be stretched slightly and will be styled very closely to the Exelero Concept sportscar.
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Old 06-30-2009, 11:30 AM
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Thanks for taking the time to answer that and clear that up in regard to Maybach. There wasn't much to base it on as far as Maybach's potential death other than that brief article, and that listing that came from one of the Britain-sourced publication/websites regarding projects from Germany that are either delayed, on-hold, or canceled, which it didn't fully clarify. It even goes as far as to list the "S-Class Coupe" as a hold/cancellation, and the S-Class Coupe is the name being given to the facelifted CL - something that I found out here in this thread, before it hit the other automotive news & enthusiast sites, this will go along with the naming convention of the CLK successor being christened the E-Class Coupe.

With Project Romeo & Juliet in place, it appears much more feasible to continue Maybach and develop it along side of Lagonda, but I do agree that Maybach has to advance far more forward from the current offerings or it will be clearly be overshadowed by the other marques in it's arena. I could also understand the Maybach 51 being on hold, for a Maybach 53 is being developed, this will size it exactly with the Bentley Continental Flying Spur, a main competitor.
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Old 06-30-2009, 08:55 PM
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Yes, Car Magazine has alot of leaks in there news and just gave a list according to predictions, not facts. I mean as I told you all Toyota/Lexus could not pump that much money into the LF-A prgramm and not build it, just as Honda/Acura could not leave the NSX program alone.


UPDATE~!!!!!!!

My sources close to AMG have recenly heard that AMG Chairman Volker Mornhinweg and Powertrain and transmission boss Friedrich Eichler have ben spotted talking about a new supercar model that has been planned by HWA and planned to be built with the help of AMG. My sources revealed to me that the Daimler AG Board has plans to build a supercar, currently purposed by HWA. This new hypercar will be the C113 supercar. My sources have revealed to me what tis new powertrain will have to do with the future of AMG. My sources have revealed to me that Mika Hakkinen will help develop the carbon fiber monocoque chassis, while styling will be acrried out at Mercedes Italian Design house on Lake Como known as Villa Salazar. The styling will be a leap forward with LED head and rear lamps with a xenon lens that will swivel side to side with nhe steering. This model was designed roughly to carry a V-12, but according to my sources there will be a AMG Flybrid that will help thsi engine produce as much as 810 BHP, thanks in part to a K.E.R.S. system that is good for close to150 BHP in short burst activated by a button that will allow you to use the energy stored by the batteries from braking. This new supercar will feature active aerodynamics, and will also have gullwing doors like the original. The engine of choice will be a twin-turbo direct injection dry sump 5.0 lite V-8 with plenty of racing technoloy. My sources have also revealed to me that this models chassis was esigned some 10 years ago as the successor to the CLR LeMans racers that flipped at LeMans, this chassis will be covere in carbon fiber with the gullwings covered in carbon fiber kevlar, while the frame is made fo carbon fiber, titanimum and kevlar to make them light yet strong. This model was originally planned before the SLR program, but cancelled due to the fan following of the SLR Concept and production model.
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Old 06-30-2009, 09:43 PM
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...My sources have also revealed to me that this models chassis was esigned some 10 years ago as the successor to the CLR LeMans racers that flipped at LeMans, this chassis will be covere in carbon fiber with the gullwings covered in carbon fiber kevlar, while the frame is made fo carbon fiber, titanimum and kevlar to make them light yet strong. This model was originally planned before the SLR program, but cancelled due to the fan following of the SLR Concept and production model.
So this is in addition to the SLS AMG model? Another thing: was this CLR-replacement chassis a complete in-house job by HWA? In any case, this seems to be a very fascinating car: like the Porsche Carrera GT it was a race car that never raced.
When could we see this 5.0 litre V8 in production cars? In 2 years? Was it developed by inputs from Illmor?

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Old 06-30-2009, 10:11 PM
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Thank you for that nice update on the development of the upcoming C113 from AMG and HWA, which will be a most brilliant and outstanding edition to an arsenal of supercars/hypercars at Daimler!

You mention that Car Magazine does have leaks in it's news - Car Magazine was off in regard to the Bentley Arnarge successor (Grand Bentley) stating that it would be larger, which is correct, but would be a reskin on the existing, ancient chassis, and not a mainly aluminum spaceframe and a carrover 6.75L V8, which also is Jurassic.

Also in regard to the Toyota/Lexus LF-A supercar, I can fully and easily understand where the company wouldn't spend all the revenue and time into the program and not build it, as had thought been the case, and I've also seen reports that the new Toyota CEO wants to be back in the game with sporty offerings, as well - this includes the RWD sporty coupe co-developed with Subaru which would be a spiritual successor the the Celica line, and a similar offering/clone at Subaru. Recent reports also indicated that a Supra offering for Toyota division is back on track, mentioning hybrid and non-hybrid versions are in development, I supposed it will be influenced or based on the recent FT-HS concept.

Also at Honda/Acura, regarding the NSX cancellation; I understand that Honda is sitting on this model and waiting for market conditions to be more favorable to release it to production. This is not unlike the Chevrolet division at GM with the Z28 version of the new Camaro (see my post #922 in this thread) where they're sitting on this, and could release it if or when they feel fitting. It was also reported that Acura was abandoning it's plans to become top-tier, but later reports said that this was false, but Acura would also not abandon it's value end, as well. At Acura, offering a V6 powered TSX upgrade is a smart move in my book, and with the status if the new TL line, which spans a couple of levels from more base to the higher end with the more power V6s and SH-AWD, this ultimately renders the current RL as redundant, but, I feel that the current RL, with it's well-needed facelift and upgrades, is acting as a stop-gap solution until it's successor arrives, perhaps a larger, V8 powered RWD-bias?
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Old 06-30-2009, 11:01 PM
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Let me get straight to the answering of the questions that have bene left unanswered for you all!

The C113's chassis was planned to be a LeMans racer and was developed completely by HWA, for there LeMans race car programm, hat was cancelled after the 1999 CLR's flipped at LeMans. The new chassis was then cancelled until now, when HWA proposed a new mid engined supercar for Mercedes-AMG. It's alot like the Porsche Carrera GT, with a never raced chassis, that will allow for a true performence supercar for the road. The twin-turbo direct injection dry sump 5.0 liter V-8 will arrive within the next 2 years timespan, namely to give time for the current 6.2 liter V-8 to go through a few evolutions and possibly the first use of the new twin-turbo system.

My sources have sent me pictures of 4 new Lamborghini's, the first is th Gallado LP550-2 Valentino Balboni Edition which is a rear wheel drive version of the LP560-4, with a more luxurious interior then in that model. It also will have a choice of 6 speed manual or a 6 speed E-Gear sequetial transmission.

The second model is a much rumored Lamborghini Reventon Roadster, and this model will feaure a removable roof panel made of carbon fiber instead of the fabric roof on the Murcielago Raodster. The engine will be able to produce as much as 660 BHP, thanks in part to the lighter body panels and losing roughly 50 lbs over the coupe. This drop in weight will add to the performence of this model also, namely a horsepower rating of 660 BHP The unique stylin of the Reventon is present to say the least, but expect this model to stay true to Lamborghini form.

The third model is the JOTA, which if this picture is spot on, then we are in for a great new supercar from Lamborghini with plenty of Reventon/ F22 Raptor styling. This model will also the new direction in which Walter de Silva wishes to go with Lamborghini. Th wedge shape is present, and the wider body shows just how far Lamborghini wants to take power to weight. The new 6.0 liter direct injction V-12 will be based on the Gallardo's 5.2 liter V-10's block be it stretched and featuring direct injection. With the revv limit up to roughly 7500 RPM's we will see a Lamborghini like no other on the road.

Lastly, the URUS Programm is shaping up as we speak, with the concept of a Reventon successor. This new ultra exclusive bull will be the ultimate Lamborghini. This cars styling will feature plenty technology from the JOTA, as well as Lamborghini Racing division with as much as 770 BHP. Expect this model to be the furthest evolution fo the JOTA supercar with plenty of new styling cues that will showcase Lamborghini's most extreme form of all time!!!!!

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